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Subject: Do you think Fritz8 is still better than Junior8 and why? NT

Author: Eran

Date: 02:53:52 01/26/03

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On January 26, 2003 at 05:35:03, Uri Blass wrote:

>On January 26, 2003 at 04:58:21, Frank Phillips wrote:
>
>>On January 26, 2003 at 03:33:23, Jorge Pichard wrote:
>>
>>>http://www.chessbase.com/newsdetail.asp?newsid=750
>>
>>Then it is a shame that they will not be playing the same game that Deep Blue
>>and Kasparov played.
>>
>>Unless I have misunderstood the contract, this is a modified version of chess to
>>that defined by the standard rules, which nowhere states that because one side
>>knows that the game is drawn with perfect play then it shall be declared a draw
>>- even if the other side does not know or cannot demonstrate it.
>>
>>I would have left it to the players to behave appropriately in simple KBvKR
>>endings etc, but KRvKRP, KQPvKQ certainly has plenty of play.
>>
>>This is the commercial companies show so they can agree the rules of the
>>contest, but they do not own and cannot redefine chess - I hope.
>>
>>Frank
>
>No
>They do not need to redefine chess.
>
>If the programmers decide that they offer a draw in drawn 5 piece tablebase
>position the result is going to be the same result.
>
>I do not understand why people consider it as important when there is more than
>99% chance that the problem is not going to be relevant and even if the players
>get 5 piece endgame the result of it is going to be obvious.
>
>Junior7 also does not have swindle mode and it plays the first drawing move out
>of tablebases in case of a tablebase draw.
>
>I believe that Amir Ban did not care to spend time on implementing swindle mode.
>It may be important in blitz game against humans but it probably does not give
>more than 0.1 elo rating at tournament time control against kasparov.
>
>Uri



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