Author: Frank Phillips
Date: 03:19:32 01/26/03
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On January 26, 2003 at 05:35:03, Uri Blass wrote: >On January 26, 2003 at 04:58:21, Frank Phillips wrote: > >>On January 26, 2003 at 03:33:23, Jorge Pichard wrote: >> >>>http://www.chessbase.com/newsdetail.asp?newsid=750 >> >>Then it is a shame that they will not be playing the same game that Deep Blue >>and Kasparov played. >> >>Unless I have misunderstood the contract, this is a modified version of chess to >>that defined by the standard rules, which nowhere states that because one side >>knows that the game is drawn with perfect play then it shall be declared a draw >>- even if the other side does not know or cannot demonstrate it. >> >>I would have left it to the players to behave appropriately in simple KBvKR >>endings etc, but KRvKRP, KQPvKQ certainly has plenty of play. >> >>This is the commercial companies show so they can agree the rules of the >>contest, but they do not own and cannot redefine chess - I hope. >> >>Frank > >No >They do not need to redefine chess. The result is the same as Amir offering the draw - which is fine. But I believe that they should have the choice. I also believe that humans would err occasionally against some of the tricker endgames, just as theory has been overturned by databases. Frank > >If the programmers decide that they offer a draw in drawn 5 piece tablebase >position the result is going to be the same result. > >I do not understand why people consider it as important when there is more than >99% chance that the problem is not going to be relevant and even if the players >get 5 piece endgame the result of it is going to be obvious. > >Junior7 also does not have swindle mode and it plays the first drawing move out >of tablebases in case of a tablebase draw. > >I believe that Amir Ban did not care to spend time on implementing swindle mode. >It may be important in blitz game against humans but it probably does not give >more than 0.1 elo rating at tournament time control against kasparov. > >Uri
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