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Subject: Re: Search for a human chess player who will KR vs KN Crafty!

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 07:46:17 01/26/03

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On January 26, 2003 at 05:31:12, Sune Fischer wrote:

>On January 25, 2003 at 21:28:54, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>On January 25, 2003 at 16:31:25, Sune Fischer wrote:
>>
>>>On January 24, 2003 at 23:20:58, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>>
>>>[snipped a huge amout, that should have been snipped looong ago so people don't
>>>have to scroll for half an our to read 5 lines]
>>>
>>>>>I think that they forgot the fact that the hardware is not twice faster every
>>>>>year and the progress in hardware is going to stop sometime in the future.
>>>>>
>>>>>300 Mhz were used in the end of 97 in the microcomputer world championship in
>>>>>paris (Today, more than 5 years later we do not have 300*32=9600Mhz.
>>>>>
>>>>>Uri
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Moore's law is running on a roughly 18 month cycle.  1.5 years.  5 years ==
>>>>three doublings.  8 * 300 is 2400, which is a bit behind, since we are at 3.0+
>>>>today.
>>>
>>>Actually I believe Moore's law was about the number of transistors, and not
>>>about speed (common misconception).
>>>
>>>http://www.intel.com/research/silicon/mooreslaw.htm
>>>
>>>-S.
>>
>>Yes, but if you look carefully, density and speed are proportional, hence
>>the common usage about doubling speed...
>
>Yes, that is probably not far off.
>But measuring speed is not as simple as merely looking to the MHz, the P4 vs K7
>is a prime example of that :)
>
>-S.


Yep.. but compare a PIV with rambus to the K7, when the benchmark is streaming
data from / to memory and nothing else.  IE a large numerical computation on a
huge array.  You will get a _completely_ different "winner" in that case.

One problem is comparing mhz.  In the same processor generation, mhz is a good
way to compare.  But the PIV has a new core, distinct from the PIII, so that
comparing mhz there is interesting from Moore's law perspective, but not from
a raw performance perspective...



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