Author: Omid David Tabibi
Date: 18:19:16 01/26/03
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On January 26, 2003 at 21:08:27, Peter McKenzie wrote: >On January 26, 2003 at 20:49:52, Omid David Tabibi wrote: > >>On January 26, 2003 at 20:44:36, Peter McKenzie wrote: >> >>>On January 26, 2003 at 20:02:05, Omid David Tabibi wrote: >>> >>><snip> >>> >>>>>>Yes, let me again repeat the repeated: "humans are still *far* stronger than >>>>>>computers". >>>>> >>>>>You can say it as many times as you want but that doesn't make it true. >>>> >>>>Kasparov's performance does. >>> >>>You make this conclusion from one game? That is rather funny. >> >>It is not exactly a conclusion; but rather a prediction of the conclusion :-) > >Right, glad we got that clear. Still, I wouldn't get too excited just yet. > >> >>> >>>What of the previous Kramnik-Fritz and Deep Blue-Kasparov matches? >> >>Kramnik - Fritz is irrelevant, it was the "not the strongest" human vs "not the >>strongest" computer. > >Kramnik and Kasparov are not far apart in strength, the rating list tells us >this. Ditto for Fritz/Junior and SSDF rating list. Therefore the Kramnik - >Fritz match was very relevant to my way of thinking. > >>Deep Blue - Kasparov is even more irrelevant, as Kasparov >>was so nervous he performed like an under 2600 player, and God knows what (who?) >>Deep Blue had behind the scenes. > >Nervousness is a fact of life for humans, chess players in particular. A chess >game decided by nerves is every bit as valid as one decided by opening >knowledge, analytical ability, intuition, etc etc. Kasparov of all people knows >this because he is usually on the other side of the nervousness! > >Can Kasparov control his nerves better this time around? Time will tell. In 1997 Kasparov knew nothing about his rival, he got "afraid" as he put it, and so played the worst games of his entire career. That wasn't a match between the strongest human vs the strongest computer. > >I'm amazed you are giving any credit to Kasparov's 'behind the scenes' >accusations. Personally I write them off as the ravings of a sore loser. When someone wins the 100 meters sprint Olympic gold, he has to do a drug test. For computers the drug test is the logs. IBM released only partial logs of Deep Blue, and that with a considerable delay. It's like taking a drug test several days after the event... > >> >> >>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>Omid.
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