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Subject: Re: Deep Junior is better even if it is slower than Deeper Blue !

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 19:01:28 01/26/03

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On January 26, 2003 at 12:21:04, Rolf Tueschen wrote:

>On January 26, 2003 at 12:01:36, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>On January 26, 2003 at 11:39:02, Rolf Tueschen wrote:
>>
>>>On January 26, 2003 at 10:39:11, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>>
>>>>On January 26, 2003 at 05:30:01, Roger D Davis wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>Unless I have misunderstood the contract, this is a modified version of chess to
>>>>>>that defined by the standard rules, which nowhere states that because one side
>>>>>>knows that the game is drawn with perfect play then it shall be declared a draw
>>>>>>- even if the other side does not know or cannot demonstrate it.
>>>>>
>>>>>Presumably then, Kasparov could show up with his own set of tablebases, and
>>>>>consult them during the match? Maybe he has a particular ending he's weak in. Or
>>>>>do only Junior's tablebases count?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Kasparov can show up with anything he wants, "in his head".  The computer is
>>>>doing exactly the same.
>>>
>>>'Exactly' is exactly the delusion in CC.
>>>
>>>Rolf Tueschen
>>
>>There is no delusion on my part in CC.  There is _great_ delusion in what
>>a human can (and does) do when playing chess, by "some" of course...
>
>Correct. And therefore my question about fairness... That was my "delusion"
>here.
>
>Rolf Tueschen

Fairness is impossible.  How to equalize a human and a computer?  Absolutely
no way to answer that question.  So we end up with a competition and nothing
more.

To start the handicapping nonsense is simply a pointless argument that won't
go anywhere.  It never has.




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