Author: Jorge Pichard
Date: 01:35:13 01/27/03
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On January 27, 2003 at 01:58:02, Bob Bachman wrote: >What I cannot understand about the opinions expressed here about the Kasparov-DJ >game is how quickly everyone gets on a soapbox and makes some obviously >inappropriate comments, like why DJ is terrible, why another program should have >taken DJ's place, how could the program play so bad, I will never buy a program >that can play so bad, etc. > >These statements are all over reactions. I saw the same general thing after each >game of the Kramnik-DF match. Let us step back a minute. Kasparov-DJ followed >previous games until white's 13th move (although DJ apparently was out of book >earlier). These previous games certainly are not convincing in White's >superiority. So what do you expect the DJ team to do, anticipate TN's on >Kasparov's part and adjust the book accordingly? Is the program (or any other >program) good enough to anticipate these TN's many ply's in advance. > >To see how bad DJ's evaluation function is, why do we not play some engine >matches with various black alternatives to 13 ... b5. I have a suspicion that >these alternatives are not great for black (I am not good enough to make this >statement however). Therefore it comes down to Kaspaov's superb insight or >pre-match preparation. Take your pick, you got to love it. Personally I am >ecstatic to be even able to watch such a match. > >On another matter, I am continually amazed at all the conspiracy theorists who >abound in this forum, on why this and previous matches results are pre-ordained. >Why, is chess alone so crooked or is it all sport? If you believe this I think >you fall into the Fischer thinking that all matches after 1972 were fixed. Give >me a break. Players have egos and they want to win. Winning always means more >money and more prestiege. Only when fear gets you, do you lose your fighting >spirit and play for the draw. > >Enough of my rant. I prefer to watch the games, no matter what the outcome, >enjoy them for what they are and then analyze thme and wait for the next game. >What are the alternatives, no man-machine games at all. What we are are >witnessing is what the group collectively dreams about, shouldn't we be happy. >It is a golden time (even the mainstream media likes it). > >Bob If Deep junior would have won the first game a lot of people here would right away posted Deep Junior is much better than Deeper Blue Bla Bla Bla Bla Bla.... Like I posted before the match you can't compare Deep Junior to Deeper Blue, since Kasparov is NOT playing at the same strength as he was in 1997, be has become much stronger and experienced against chess computer programs. Simply compare his rating back in 1997 versus today's rating. Pichard.
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