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Subject: Re: What the hell is wrong with 17.......RAB8 with play for the pawn.

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 04:18:36 01/27/03

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On January 27, 2003 at 03:37:09, Alastair Scott wrote:

>On January 26, 2003 at 20:19:34, robert flesher wrote:
>
>>Nt
>
>I would hardly say there's much. After Nxe5 Nxe5 Qxe5 Qa6 (or Qa4) Qc3 looks
>good; Black has nothing - no pawn levers and precious little piece play - and,
>after an ensuing Bd4, it's White who has the attack :)
>
>Alastair

Yace believes that Rab8 was still better than the game move.

Kasparov(GM) - Deep_Junior_1-0
r4rk1/pb1n1ppp/2qN4/4p1Pn/2p1P3/2Q1BN2/PP3P1P/2KR3R b - - 0 1

Analysis by Yace 0.99.56:

17...Qxd6 18.Rxd6 Bxe4 19.Rxd7 Bxf3
  +-  (5.69)   Depth: 1   00:00:00
17...Qc7 18.Nxb7 Qxb7 19.Qxc4
  ²  (0.44)   Depth: 1   00:00:00
17...Rfd8 18.Nxb7 Qxb7 19.Qxc4
  =  (-0.03)   Depth: 1   00:00:00
17...Rfd8 18.Kb1
  =  (0.06)   Depth: 2   00:00:00
17...Rfd8 18.Kb1 Ba6
  =  (0.17)   Depth: 3   00:00:00
17...Nf4 18.Nxb7 Qxb7
  =  (0.16)   Depth: 3   00:00:00
17...Nf4 18.Bxf4 exf4
  =  (0.13)   Depth: 3   00:00:00
17...Nf4 18.Bxf4 exf4 19.Nf5 g6
  =  (0.18)   Depth: 4   00:00:00
17...Nf4 18.Bxf4 Qxd6 19.Rxd6 exf4
  ²  (0.58)   Depth: 5   00:00:00  25kN
17...Nf4 18.Bxf4 Rad8 19.Nxe5 Nxe5 20.Bxe5
  +-  (3.95)   Depth: 5   00:00:00  25kN
17...Rfd8 18.Kb1 Rdc8 19.Nxf7
  +-  (3.94)   Depth: 5   00:00:00  25kN
17...Rfd8 18.Nxf7 Kxf7 19.Rxd7+ Kg8 20.Rxd8+ Rxd8 21.Rd1 Rxd1+ 22.Kxd1 Qxe4
  ±  (1.07)   Depth: 5   00:00:00  25kN
17...Qc7 18.g6 fxg6 19.Nf5
  ±  (1.06)   Depth: 5   00:00:00  25kN
17...Qc7 18.Kb1 Rab8 19.Ka1 Rfd8 20.Nxe5 Nxe5 21.Qxe5
  ±  (0.84)   Depth: 5   00:00:00  25kN
17...Qc7 18.Nxe5 Nxe5 19.Qxe5 Rfd8 20.Qc5 Bc6
  ±  (0.88)   Depth: 6   00:00:01  230kN
17...Ba6 18.Nxe5 Nxe5 19.Qxe5 Rfd8 20.Bd2
  ±  (0.87)   Depth: 6   00:00:01  230kN
17...Ba6 18.Nxe5 Nxe5 19.Qxe5 Rfd8 20.f3 Bb7
  ±  (0.77)   Depth: 6   00:00:01  230kN
17...Ba6 18.Nxe5 Nxe5 19.Qxe5 f6 20.gxf6 Bb7
  ±  (1.17)   Depth: 7   00:00:02  459kN
17...Ba6 18.Nxe5 Nxe5 19.Qxe5 Rfd8 20.f3 c3 21.bxc3
  ±  (1.24)   Depth: 7   00:00:02  507kN
17...Qc7 18.Nxe5 Nxe5 19.Qxe5 Rfd8 20.Nxf7 Rxd1+ 21.Kc2
  ±  (1.23)   Depth: 7   00:00:02  507kN
17...Qc7 18.Nxe5 Nxe5 19.Qxe5 Rfd8 20.Kb1 Rab8 21.f3
  ±  (1.01)   Depth: 7   00:00:02  507kN
17...Qc7 18.Nxe5 Bxe4 19.Nxd7 Bxh1 20.Nxf8 Rxf8 21.Qxc4 Bc6 22.Kb1
  ±  (0.94)   Depth: 8   00:00:08  2301kN
17...Qc7 18.Nxe5 Bxe4 19.Nxd7 Bxh1 20.Nxf8 Bf3 21.Bb6 Qc6 22.g6
  ±  (0.88)   Depth: 9   00:00:24  6681kN
17...Qc7 18.Rd2 f6 19.Rhd1 Ba6 20.Kb1 Rab8 21.gxf6 Nhxf6 22.Nxe5 Nxe4
  ±  (0.96)   Depth: 10   00:01:26  23904kN
17...Qc7 18.Rd2 Nf4 19.Nxe5 Ne2+ 20.Rxe2 Qxd6 21.Nxc4 Qe7 22.f3 Rfd8 23.h4 Qe6
  ±  (0.90)   Depth: 11   00:04:04  67426kN
17...Qc7 18.Rd2 Nf4 19.Nxe5 Ne2+ 20.Rxe2 Qxd6 21.Nxc4 Qa6 22.Rd1 Rac8 23.b3 Rfd8
24.Bd4
  ±  (0.94)   Depth: 12   00:09:44  169680kN
17...Rab8 18.Nxe5 Nxe5 19.Qxe5 Qa4 20.Bc5 Bc6 21.Nb7 Bxb7 22.g6 hxg6 23.Kb1
  ±  (0.93)   Depth: 12   00:16:58  298065kN
17...Rab8 18.Nxe5 Nxe5 19.Qxe5 Qa4 20.Bc5 Bc6 21.Kb1
  ±  (0.93)   Depth: 12   00:17:18  304147kN
17...Rab8 18.Nxe5 Nxe5 19.Qxe5 Qa4 20.a3 Bc6 21.Rd4 Rfd8 22.Rhd1 Qb3 23.Nxc4 Re8
24.Qf5
  ±  (0.97)   Depth: 13   00:36:59  642948kN

(Blass, Tel-Aviv 27.01.2003)


After 17...Rab8 18.Nxe5 Nxe5 19.Qxe5 Qa4 Yace does not plan Qc3 and has the
follwoing opinion


Kasparov(GM) - Deep_Junior_1-0
1r3rk1/pb3ppp/3N4/4Q1Pn/q1p1P3/4B3/PP3P1P/2KR3R w - - 0 1

Analysis by Yace 0.99.56:

20.Nxb7 Rxb7
  ²  (0.60)   Depth: 1   00:00:00
20.g6
  ±  (0.85)   Depth: 1   00:00:00
20.a3 Bc6 21.Rd4 Rfd8 22.Nf5 Re8 23.Qxe8+ Bxe8 24.Bf4
  ±  (0.97)   Depth: 1   00:00:00
20.a3 Bc6 21.Rd4 Rfd8 22.Nf5 Re8 23.Qxe8+ Bxe8 24.Bf4
  ±  (0.97)   Depth: 2   00:00:00
20.g6 hxg6 21.Nxb7 Rxb7 22.Bxa7
  ±  (0.98)   Depth: 2   00:00:00
20.g6 hxg6
  ±  (0.98)   Depth: 2   00:00:00
20.g6 hxg6 21.Nxb7
  ±  (0.98)   Depth: 3   00:00:00
20.g6 hxg6 21.Nxb7 Rxb7 22.Bxa7
  ±  (0.98)   Depth: 4   00:00:00
20.g6 hxg6 21.Qe7 Qa6 22.f3
  ±  (0.81)   Depth: 5   00:00:00  17kN
20.a3 Bc6 21.Rd4 Rfd8 22.Nf5 Re8 23.Qxe8+ Bxe8 24.Bf4
  ±  (0.97)   Depth: 5   00:00:00  17kN
20.a3 Bc6 21.Rd4 Rfd8 22.Nf5 Re8 23.Qxe8+ Bxe8 24.Bf4
  ±  (0.97)   Depth: 6   00:00:00  20kN
20.g6 hxg6 21.Qe7 Qa6 22.Bc5 Rfd8 23.Nxf7 Rxd1+ 24.Kxd1 Bxe4 25.Qxe4 Kxf7
  ±  (0.98)   Depth: 6   00:00:00  20kN
20.g6 hxg6 21.Qe7 Bc6 22.Qxa7 Qb4
  ±  (1.04)   Depth: 6   00:00:00  20kN
20.g6 hxg6 21.Qe7 Qb4 22.a3 Qb3 23.Bxa7
  ±  (1.04)   Depth: 7   00:00:02  656kN
20.g6 hxg6 21.Qe7 Qxa2 22.Nxb7 c3 23.Nc5 cxb2+ 24.Kd2 b1Q+ 25.Ke1
  ²  (0.64)   Depth: 8   00:00:03  948kN
20.g6 hxg6 21.Qe7 Qxa2 22.Nxb7 c3 23.bxc3 Qa1+ 24.Kc2 Qa2+ 25.Kd3 Qa6+ 26.c4
  ²  (0.45)   Depth: 8   00:00:06  2013kN
20.a3 Bc6 21.Rd4 Rfd8 22.Nf5 Re8
  ±  (0.97)   Depth: 8   00:00:06  2013kN
20.a3 Bc6 21.Rd4 Rfd8 22.Nf5 Re8 23.Ne7+ Kh8 24.Qc7 Bb5 25.Rhd1
  ±  (0.92)   Depth: 10   00:01:53  36085kN
20.a3 Ba8 21.Rd2 Rb3 22.Rd4 Qa6 23.Nxc4 Rc8 24.Kd1 Qa4 25.Nd6
  ±  (1.04)   Depth: 11   00:07:44  152381kN
20.a3 Ba8 21.Rd2 a6 22.Rhd1 Qb3 23.Bc5 Qa2 24.f3 Bc6 25.h3 Ba4
  ±  (1.06)   Depth: 12   00:20:50  400828kN

(Blass, Tel-Aviv 27.01.2003)

I thought that Junior7 saw some deep tactics when it played Rae8 but again it
seems that it was not maerialistic enough and prefers illusion and not material
because I cannot understand it's reason not to play Rab8(even some plies after
Rab8 Yace cannot see material gain).

Uri



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