Author: Drexel,Michael
Date: 05:00:21 01/27/03
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On January 27, 2003 at 07:45:28, Albert Silver wrote: >On January 26, 2003 at 20:49:52, Omid David Tabibi wrote: > >>On January 26, 2003 at 20:44:36, Peter McKenzie wrote: >> >>>On January 26, 2003 at 20:02:05, Omid David Tabibi wrote: >>> >>><snip> >>> >>>>>>Yes, let me again repeat the repeated: "humans are still *far* stronger than >>>>>>computers". >>>>> >>>>>You can say it as many times as you want but that doesn't make it true. >>>> >>>>Kasparov's performance does. >>> >>>You make this conclusion from one game? That is rather funny. >> >>It is not exactly a conclusion; but rather a prediction of the conclusion :-) >> >>> >>>What of the previous Kramnik-Fritz and Deep Blue-Kasparov matches? >> >>Kramnik - Fritz is irrelevant, it was the "not the strongest" human vs "not the >>strongest" computer. Deep Blue - Kasparov is even more irrelevant, as Kasparov >>was so nervous he performed like an under 2600 player, and God knows what (who?) >>Deep Blue had behind the scenes. > >It's easy to twist the facts to make them fit what you want to see. Allow me to >do the opposite: > >Kramnik - Fritz proved that computers are at least as strong as the World >Champion since despite having months to prepare (well over a year with all the >delays in fact) it still managed to draw an 8 game match at tournament time >controls. >Deep Blue - Kasparov is even more relevant, since Deep Blue overcame a one game >deficit in a 6-game match despite suffering from enormous tweaking problems, and >a bug detected after the first game. The second Deep Blue - Kasparov match is not relevant at all, because Kasparov played a sort of Anti-Computer-Chess which was based on naive Computerchess knowledge. He didnt play normal chess. In Kramnik - Fritz GM Kramnik played chess as if he would have played against a human beeing (including the sacrifice on f7). the first three games he played rock solid chess, however this was not Anti-Computer-Chess. Kramnik played this way against Kasparov and many others too. > >This match is clearly meant to salavge humanity's honor by setting the best >player in the world against the "not the strongest" (just a spoof BTW, >Amir/Shay) engine as the SSDF states on "not the strongest" hardware. > >If this fails, a 32-game match against Sargon I on an Apple II emulator running >on the Palm is scheduled for 2004. > > Albert > >> >> >>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>Omid.
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