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Subject: Re: Deep Junior is better even if it is slower than Deeper Blue !

Author: Rolf Tueschen

Date: 12:30:16 01/27/03

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On January 27, 2003 at 14:58:03, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On January 27, 2003 at 02:14:18, Sune Fischer wrote:
>
>>On January 26, 2003 at 21:56:47, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>
>>>On January 26, 2003 at 12:05:31, Sune Fischer wrote:
>>>
>>>>On January 26, 2003 at 10:39:11, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On January 26, 2003 at 05:30:01, Roger D Davis wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>>Unless I have misunderstood the contract, this is a modified version of chess to
>>>>>>>that defined by the standard rules, which nowhere states that because one side
>>>>>>>knows that the game is drawn with perfect play then it shall be declared a draw
>>>>>>>- even if the other side does not know or cannot demonstrate it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Presumably then, Kasparov could show up with his own set of tablebases, and
>>>>>>consult them during the match? Maybe he has a particular ending he's weak in. Or
>>>>>>do only Junior's tablebases count?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Kasparov can show up with anything he wants, "in his head".  The computer is
>>>>>doing exactly the same.
>>>>
>>>>The computer doesn't have a head, so how can it be exactly the same?
>>>>
>>>>-S.
>>>
>>>
>>>Mine does.  It has short-term memory, long-term memory, processing power, etc,
>>>all in _one_ "container".  Just like _I_ do...
>>
>>So you _do_ think it's the same?
>>
>>-S.
>
>
>No.  I just think that when I play a game, I play with what is in my
>"container".  The computer
>does the same.  There is absolutely no way to make them "the same".  One is
>formulated from
>silicon/copper/etc, the other from carbon materials.  The concept of "the same"
>is
>fundamentally flawed....

For what did we develop the concepts of fairness and justice in the last 5000
years?

Rolf Tueschen



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