Author: Matthew Hull
Date: 14:11:40 01/27/03
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On January 27, 2003 at 17:04:32, Sune Fischer wrote: >On January 27, 2003 at 16:16:34, Matthew Hull wrote: > >>On January 27, 2003 at 15:32:08, Sune Fischer wrote: >> >>>On January 27, 2003 at 15:03:12, Robert Hyatt wrote: >>> >>>>On January 27, 2003 at 02:13:08, Sune Fischer wrote: >>>> >>>>>On January 26, 2003 at 22:00:01, Robert Hyatt wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>I'm going to give you a simple task. >>>>>> >>>>>>I want to arrange a race between a motorcycle and a human. one mile (or >>>>>>1500 meters if you prefer) in distance. >>>>>> >>>>>>Exactly _how_ will you limit the motorcycle to make this _fair_? >>>>> >>>>>I would start out by making sure the contestens raced the same distance, not >>>>>fair to move the finishline closer to the motorcycle. >>>>>:) >>>> >>>>The distance was already defined. exactly 1500 meters for _both_. That's out >>>>of the way. >>>> >>>>:) >>> >>>I think you do not understand your own analogy then :) >>>Table bases _is_ moving the finish line, the engine is done when entering those. >> >> >>Exactly. Just like the game is over when one side in the KPK ending has the >>opposition. They are done. >> >>No difference whatsoever. So what is your point now? :) >> > >The point is to stop the game, and not play against table bases, which is not >interesting. >Either Kasparov would draw the table bases or he would lose to the table bases, >either way it is not interesting as we already know he is not perfect and cannot >(maybe not) hold a draw in for instance a KRNKRR endgame. > >On the other hand it would also be wrong to claim that Junior won that endgame >simply because it read from a table base (table bases won, not Junior), so the >game is void at that moment. Not really. Junior has to successfully steer the game to the won ending...just like humans do all the time! There is no difference, correct? If the GM is ignorant where the EGTBs are not, then we want to see that. No one complained of unfairness when progs were weak at endgames (and many still are!). There is no fairness problem here that I can see. Pre-calculated tables are part of chess programs. It saves CPU cycles. :) Matt > >-S. >>Matt
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