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Subject: CCC and Member Behavior

Author: Shaun Graham

Date: 11:53:28 09/26/98


  An Offense was comitted on CCC by Robert Hyatt, against one of the members of
CCC.  That member being me Shaun Graham.  Because this offense occurred in this
open form,  I am discussing it in this open form, because the CONDUCT OF MEMBERS
IN CCC, IS AN INHERENTLY ON TOPIC SUBJECT of CCC, when that conduct occurs
inside of this forum.  This is especially true, for the reason that if a slight
is comitted against a CCC member in open forum damaging his/her reputation and
standing in the group there is no recourse for the individual to defend
him/herself in order to dispell falsehoods and rebuke unwarranted attacks that
may exist in the collective consciousness of the group.    Except by making a
statement in the group.  This is true, for the reason that even though one could
write to the moderators, since no statement is released by the moderators, the
damage to ones reputation MAY remain fixed.

I posted a thread in this group which stated:

1. Robert Hyatt is a liar.

   This Statement was posted for the reason that IN WRITING Robert Hyatt AGREED
to cease and desist from reading or posting replies to posts of Shaun Graham.
At least on two occasions Robert Hyatt has willfully and intentionally broken
this WRITTEN AGREEMENT, by posting  replies to posts of Shaun Graham.  Further
this more direct statement of the facts was only made, after Robert Hyatt was
informed by me to maintain his agreement after he violated it the first time.
This agreement was made and accepted by both parties because of irreconcilable
differences of oppinions leading to long unnecessary heated debates that occur
between the two parties.

This statement against Robert Hyatt is not an attack or an abuse of him.  For
the reason that an attack is something most often which is "derogatory, and
simultaneously of the nature of OPPINION, and SOMETIMES also for the soul
purpose to defame the person who is targeted".  Here the statement is 1.NOT of
OPPINION, for the reason that the agreement is in writing and stored in a post
of CCC, and further that the evidence that Hyatt has been reading and posting to
Shaun Graham's posts, is also a part of CCC record.  2.There is no effort being
made to defame Robert Hyatt by the statement, but only to defend myself from his
abuse(He broke the agreement, and he was posting written faulty sarcastic
attacks to the posts in question). 3. Thus if Hyatt is defamed and if the truth
about him(he lied) is derogatory, that is a by-product that has occured.  It
would have not even been possible for this to have occurred except for the
reason that he violated the agreement(lied).

Hyatt attempted to justify his breaking of this agreement(his lying), by making
the claim that a post by Shaun Graham entitled "Fritz draws a game with Anand,
and Junior defeats Zifroni in a match", that contained the line "Hmm looks like
GM strength to me",  was SOMEHOW directed at him.  Considering that I have had
no contact with Hyatt or even read a post of his in over a month, not to mention
that the posts doesn't mention him at all, such a claim can be seen for the "Red
Herring it is(an attempt to cover his lie).  The post was only meant to inspire
some comment about these matches, especially since there wasn't much response to
the more direct post i made which asked if anyone had info on the "Zifroni
match?"  Further if i am not mistaken this post was written AFTER Hyatt broke
the agreement the first time.  So again he has no justification for breaking his
WRITTEN AGREEMENT.

Robert Hyatt has broken the conduct of CCC more than any other person in the
history of this group(IMHO),  he is constantly arguing against "trolls" but one
can notice, that he "trolls" EVERYTHING(not occasionaly, but all the time) that
he thinks is a troll!  This statement is made on the good evidence of the record
of CCC postings which is available to be viewed.  I am not claiming that the
moderators of this group are unfairly overlooking this behavior of Hyatt, but it
would surprise me a bit, if anyone else would be allowed to go around refferring
to CCC members as "nut cases"(a recent posting of Robert Hyatt).  Further posts
supporting Hyatt such as

 "Right. If the bums post off-topic shit, erase them!
Then erase the bums, we dont want them. We dont want their off-topic shit. What
do they think this place is rec.games.chess.computer? Throw them off. Thats what
our moderators are for. Great guys. Show them what is
what We want on-topic only. When do those bums get it in their stupid heads?
Bob is a great guy too."(Jay Rinde)

Are often(IMHO) allowed to take up residence here on CCC without retort.  This
is not to say that i am not thankful for the time and effort that moderators put
into this group because i am.  I do however think that Robert Hyatt, mainly
because he has written a free chess program, gets preferential treatment, though
perhaps unintentionally so.  Sorry for this aside

The point is Robert Hyatt 1.blatantly "LIED" in this group, 2.attacked a member
of CCC  3.attempted to use some influence to cover up his behavior.

I want one thing and one thing only, that is for Robert Hyatt to be forced to
maintain the WRITTEN agreement he made here on CCC, because his not doing so is
counter productive to the goals and aims of CCC.

Thank you for your time

Sincerely Shaun Graham


P.S.  Hyatt also attempted to try to make a claim that i am somehow related to
the banned CCC member Sean Evans for the purpose of drawing attention away from
his behavior.  The USCF has a record of my location being Oklahoma.  There is
also a record of a Shawn Evans located in Ohio(I assume the evans in question),
Further i am quite certain that the postings bye me and Sean Evans can be
demonstrated to have quite different sources of origination.  I have no relation
whatsoever to Sean Evans.




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