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Subject: Re: question for programmers

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 19:54:52 01/27/03

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On January 27, 2003 at 21:22:58, K. Burcham wrote:

>
>
>If we asked any program who it was playing, wouldn't the reply be,
>"why what do you mean, I always play against myself, you mean others play chess
>too".
>
>Do any of the programs have code that is not the same for both sides?
>in other words when not in analysis mode, and program is playing against a
>human, can the values be different for black if black is program.

I can't speak for others, but I certainly do this.  IE I assume the "human"
is trying to block the position up and play for a draw, while the computer
should be trying to avoid that to keep it open and play for a win.

Chess is not exactly "zero sum" in that regard.  :)


>
>for example, GM vs program. program knows it is playing human GM and knows GM
>will play best move to close file. so a value is assigned to this best move to
>close file. so this line with this move is not pruned early. program looks at
>this line more than if it is in comp vs comp mode.

I even have a "list" of "draw-masters" in Crafty, that I use on the servers.
When I notice I am playing one of those guys, I ramp up the "don't let things
get blocked" code even higher than normal.  :)


>
>I have read about the draw value for chessbase programs, and the explanation by
>ED for the anti-human mode. these two are similiar to what I am talking about,
>but not exactly.
>
>so the question is: is the search code and values the same for both sides when a
>program is "thinking"?
>
>kburcham



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