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Subject: Re: Deep Junior can win against Kasparov. I believe in Deep Junior!!!

Author: Jorge

Date: 09:08:47 01/28/03

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On January 27, 2003 at 21:26:49, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On January 27, 2003 at 11:17:40, Marc van Hal wrote:
>
>>On January 26, 2003 at 11:23:48, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>
>>>On January 26, 2003 at 03:28:59, Jorge Pichard wrote:
>>>
>>>>On January 26, 2003 at 01:11:00, Tanya Deborah wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I think that this is one of the most important things, still most important
>>>>than the hardware.  Of course, we need to see how strong is Kasparov against
>>>>computers now, almost 6 years after he lose against Deep Blue in 1997.
>>>>
>>>>Opening is very important, but if you select a dual Xeon 2.0 GHz with an Opening
>>>>Book and a Quad 2.8 GHz without Opening Book, who do you think that will play
>>>>stronger?
>>>
>>>Against a human?  I'd likely take the quad 2.8 without the book.
>>
>>Do you think Gary would be afraid to play the Petrov?
>
>I doubt it, but then all programs won't play 1. e4 either, with no book.
>
>>>Especialy without book
>>but the point is that most openings books are made in such way
>>that you have to count on erors
>>Why would you play for a draw or worse for a loss while you could have played a
>>refutation instead?
>>Also look when the programs start to understand the position well before you
>>stop with inserting moves.
>
>I think catching a GM with a book trap is _very_ unlikely.  Enough so that I
>would rather have more horsepower for the middle/endgame, and take my chances
>on the opening without a book, rather than maybe getting a decent opening
>position but getting zapped with tactics later.
>
>>
>>A openingsbook should be suposed to be off help not of handicap.
>>On the other hand if you would use a small openings book suprises will acure
>>more often.
>>Leaving Gary unprepared
>>Then again it is more likely it will fall for some tactics which could have been
>>avoided by using the book .
>>
>>Marc
>
>Exactly.  It is a mixed bag.  Saves time.  Sometimes takes you to a good
>position.  Sometimes to a bad position.  I once played Joel Benjamin a match
>with Cray Blitz with no book(blitz games) and it did just as well without as
>with...
>
>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Very nice will be to see Kasparov losing again!
>>>>
>>>>That won't happen Kasparov is much stronger than he was in 1997 and also have
>>>>more experience now playing against computer programs.
>>>>
>>>>Pichard
>>>>
>>>>>Go Go Go Junior!!! Show us your power! and Kick Kasparov butt   :) :) :)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>>Tanya.

Kasparov is in a class by himself, the elite, a leage beyond Fritz, Junior etc.
for the moment. IMO, no program right now could tumble him.

jorge



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