Author: Rolf Tueschen
Date: 14:42:51 01/28/03
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On January 28, 2003 at 17:16:56, Matthew Hull wrote: >On January 28, 2003 at 17:01:22, Rolf Tueschen wrote: > >>On January 28, 2003 at 10:51:15, Fernando Villegas wrote: >> >>>When playing people like Kasparov, that prepares his opennings to the deepest >>>possible level, putting the book off for Junior -or after just half a dozen >>>moves- cannot be so bad. The deepest you go against Kasparov playing a >>>"theoretical" line in the openning, the nearest you approach some kind of abysm. >>>Perhaps it is preferable to commit several tiny strategical imprecisions that >>>commiting one serious and lethal mistake. Look game 1... >>>My best >>>Fernando >> >>Let me explain why your opinion is so decent, while CC tradition is (only in >>respect to games against human players!) just cowardly. >> >>You are right, but of course very clever players could exploit the general >>illness or handicap of chess machines. But at lest it would be honest to play >>like that. >> >>But - to imposter that a machine is a chess GM and either ignoring that only the >>slavery to a book > > >It's the same thing you do. You memorize opening analysis of GMs (but you are >no GM, are you "impostering"???) all the time and play them OTB. Computers are >doing the same. There is NO difference. > >:) >Matt True, it hurts but in real we all do that, therefore we are called patzers. Therefore chess is such a good medication. You don't realise that you are not the artist himself but you feel like one! Until you come home and read what Lasker played in 1914! Just take a look at my game against Euwe! That was the day I decided to become a chess champion. <ggg> http://hometown.aol.de/rolftueschen/schachpartien.html I had no idea of the history and surely did not intenionally the move inversion. Also I didn't know the most important, namely that openings without analyses of the middle game, yes even the endgame are NOTHING! You can imagine what I felt like when I later reead that this was Euwe's favorite defense in his most important games (in the Wchampionships) and he always relied on his endgame perfectionism. I tell you what, I knew relatively fast that I would always play chess in my life BUT that I could never become a real master. So I became a chess intellectual. Because I had to understand why I could still _feel_ like a champion without being one. :) Rolf Tueschen > >>that no machine could understand or intentionally dding such a >>help with hiding the fact that only unallowed help (FIDE rules for human chess) >>could save a machine against a good human player - this is dishonest IMO. >> >>Look, I am the first who would accept that comps could be GM for almost perfect >>chess, because I need such a help as trainer so badly, but when I have such a >>machine at home I know - after very short tests - that I was cheated because the >>alleged GM is a real beginner in chess. I have never read that EVER a GM existed >>in chess history who was a fool in very basic chess situations. Chess players >>were alcoholics, they pissed allegedly over the board, amateurs allegedly >>already killed their opponents with knives, but they all knew the historically >>possible about chess. >> >>So - wouldn't it be honest, decent and fair if CC would simply accept the truth, >>renounced impostering and tried to qualify for human chess? >> >>Without these ridiculous show events where only the users and the many >>spectators are been taking for a ride? >> >>What is wrong with this? >> >>Chess machines will become better and better and in 50 or 100 years they are >>stronger than mankind. What is wrong with that? >> >>What do you believe our children and their children will think about us, in >>special our imposters? And note, chess is said has nothing in common with poker >>strip or boxing! >> >>I know that I will be flamed for being an ugly revolutionarist, anarchist and >>idiot, but I am happy to be in the same class then like Jesus Christ. >> >> >>Rolf Tueschen
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