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Subject: Re: Don't foget, that Junior is one class weaker than Fritz

Author: Jonas Cohonas

Date: 06:33:19 01/29/03

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On January 29, 2003 at 01:33:38, Jouni Uski wrote:

>According to SSDF list (and it's the best we have) Junior is 68 points after
>Fritz!
>And I don't believe, that it's better against humans than most before
>statistically
>proven evidence - needs about 200 games minimum...
>
>Jouni

Following you logic, Fritz is the strongest player in the world, because the
ssdf list does not include Kasparov, Kramnik etc...

Back to reality, you can not compare Junior 7 to the version that is playing
Kasparov, just as you can't compare any previous program from before to a
present unreleased version in the hands of the programmer.

Example, i thought that Deep Fritz x (Fritz in Bahrain) should have won over
Kramnik and thought that it did poorly (judging from the actual play against
Kramnik), but looking at it's performance at playchess.com, it is really strong
against other progs, my point is that whatever the result between DJX and
Kasparov will be, we might have a Junior 8 that will top the ssdf list when they
start testing it. The first game was a product of the best player through
history and his amazing insight in opening preparations, not poor play by
Junior... Rae8!? well at that point the game looked lost anyway and one could
argue that it is admirable that the computer played a move most wouldn't even
consider, good or bad it almost looked human.

In other words, let history unfold and enjoy the bright spots :)

Regards
Jonas



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