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Subject: Re: Deep Junior vs Kasparov,G (2) ready with comments

Author: John Merlino

Date: 12:14:34 01/29/03

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On January 29, 2003 at 14:18:35, John Merlino wrote:

>On January 28, 2003 at 21:27:40, Dann Corbit wrote:
>
>>On January 28, 2003 at 20:55:25, John Merlino wrote:
>>
>>>On January 28, 2003 at 19:04:47, Kurt Utzinger wrote:
>>>
>>>>Commented game is ready for replay and download on section "Special" on our
>>>>homepage Kurt & Rolf Chess at http://www.beepworld.de/members39/utzinger
>>>>Kurt
>>>
>>>Great comments! Here are a couple of comments on YOUR comments:
>>>
>>>8...d6 -- Indeed this is a rare position. In the Chessmaster database, there are
>>>only three games, and the only one of note is Shirov-Korneev, 1998, which
>>>continued:
>>>9.0-0 Nf6 10.Kh1 {!} h5 11.Bg5 Qc7 12.Qd7 Bd7 13.Rad1 Ne5 14.Be2 Bc6 15.f3 0-0-0
>>>16.Nb5 {!} axb5 17.cxb5 Be8 18.Rc1 Bc5 19.Nd4 Kb8 20.b4 b6 21.a4 h4 22.a5 {!}
>>>Nh5 {?} 23.Bxh4 g5 24.Qxg5 f6 25.Qe3 Qg7 {? -- CM9000 much prefers 25...Bxd4
>>>26.Qxd4 Qa7} 26.g4 {bxc5 also wins} Nf4 27.bxc5 Nxe2 28.Nxe2 {Nxe6 is much
>>>better and wins easily!} Rxh4 {?? -- loses instantly. bxc4 was probably the only
>>>fighting chance} 29.c6 Rc8 30.Qxb6+ Ka8 31.c7 {THREE brutal connected passed
>>>pawns just a few steps away from Black's open king! OUCH! White has a forced
>>>mate in 11 after this move....} 1-0
>>>
>>>16.Qh5 -- Chessmaster 9000 has a difficult time deciding on which move to play
>>>here. It does consider Qh5 for some time, but also might play c5!? depending on
>>>hardware and time control.
>>
>>Ruffian likes neither Qh5 nor c5:
>>
>>E:\programme\winboard\ruffian>ruffian -h 300M -T c:\tmp\qh5.epd -t 999 -p 999
>>Hash size 314572800
>>Ruffian 1.0.1
>>feature done=0
>>Loading configuration: ruffian.cfg
>>Warning: EGTB_HASH_SIZE changed, default=1048576, newvalue=8388608
>>Logfile: Tue Jan 28 18:08:47 2003
>>Total hash size 300M
>>Initializing tablebases: /programme/winboard/nalimov
>>Testing c:\tmp\qh5.epd, 999 seconds, extra ply 999
>>Testing: test 1   Solution: Qh5
>>  2bq1rk1/rp2nppp/3p4/3Np3/p1PnP3/3B4/PP1N1PPP/2RQR1K1 w - -
>>  Depth   Time  Score    Best line
>>   6-->   1.16   0.25    Nf3 Bg4 Be2 Bxf3 Bxf3 a3 b3 Nxd5 cxd5
>>   7/17   1.32   0.21    Nf3 Bg4 Be2 Nxe2+ Qxe2 a3 b3 Nxd5 cxd5 b6
>>   7-->   1.98   0.21    Nf3 Bg4 Be2 Nxe2+ Qxe2 a3 b3 Nxd5 cxd5 b6
>>   8/19   2.34   0.17    Nf3 Bg4 Be2 Bxf3 Bxf3 Nxd5 cxd5 Qb6 Qd2 Nxf3+ gxf3
>>   8-->   4.96   0.17    Nf3 Bg4 Be2 Bxf3 Bxf3 Nxd5 cxd5 Qb6 Qd2 Nxf3+ gxf3
>>   9/22   5.90  -0.03    Nf3 Bg4 Be2 Bxf3 Nxe7+ Qxe7 Bxf3 a3 b3 Rc8 Bg4
>>   9/22   6.01   x.xx    Rc3
>>   9/22   8.00   0.13    Rc3 Nxd5 exd5 b6 Qh5 g6 Qh6 Bg4 f3 Bd7
>>   9-->  15.80   0.13    Rc3 Nxd5 exd5 b6 Qh5 g6 Qh6 Bg4 f3 Bd7
>>  10/22  18.57   0.12    Rc3 Nxd5 exd5 g6 Nf3 Bg4 Be2 Nxe2+ Qxe2 Qc7 Qe4 Bd7
>>  10/23  24.97   x.xx    Be2
>>  10/23  25.18   0.13    Be2 a3 b3 Nxd5 cxd5 b6 Nf3 Nxf3+ Bxf3 Rc7 Rxc7 Qxc7
>>                         Qd2
>>  10/23  36.83   x.xx    Re3
>>  10/23  42.40   0.14    Re3 Ra8 Bf1 Bd7 c5 Nxd5 exd5 Qc7 cxd6 Qxd6 Bc4
>>  10-->  52.88   0.14    Re3 Ra8 Bf1 Bd7 c5 Nxd5 exd5 Qc7 cxd6 Qxd6 Bc4
>>  11/25   1:28   0.14    Re3 a3 b4 Be6 Nf3 Nxf3+ Qxf3 Nc6 Be2 b6 b5 Nd4 Qh5
>>  11/28   2:08   x.xx    Be2
>>  11/28   2:25   0.15    Be2 Nxd5 cxd5 Qb6 Bh5 Bd7 Nc4 Qa6 Bg4 b5 Bxd7 Rxd7
>>                         Nd2
>>  11-->   2:52   0.15    Be2 Nxd5 cxd5 Qb6 Bh5 Bd7 Nc4 Qa6 Bg4 b5 Bxd7 Rxd7
>>                         Nd2
>>  12/28   3:51   0.15    Be2 Nxd5 cxd5 Qb6 Bh5 Bd7 Nc4 Qa6 Bg4 b5 Bxd7 Rxd7
>>                         Nd2
>>  12-->   5:41   0.15    Be2 Nxd5 cxd5 Qb6 Bh5 Bd7 Nc4 Qa6 Bg4 b5 Bxd7 Rxd7
>>                         Nd2
>>  13/30   8:05   0.12    Be2 Nxd5 cxd5 a3 b4 f5 Bh5 g6 Be2 Rf7 Nf3 Rc7 Rxc7
>>                         Nxe2+ Qxe2 Qxc7
>>  13/31  11:18   x.xx    Rc3
>>  13-->  16:09   0.12    Be2 Nxd5 cxd5 a3 b4 f5 Bh5 g6 Be2 Rf7 Nf3 Rc7 Rxc7
>>                         Nxe2+ Qxe2 Qxc7
>>  14...  16:09   1/42    Be2
>>
>>Time: 16:39, cpu 66.20%, nodes 324468931, nps 324774
>>Hash: 128M, used 99%, hits 22%
>>EGTB: probs 0, hits 0
>>
>>Best move: Be2 (0.12)  Not solved (0/1)
>>
>>Summery: 0/1
>
>Fascinating. Obviously a very critical move! I think I'll ask my human friends
>(IM Waitzkin and GM Evans) what they think of the position. It would be nice to
>chat with them anyway....
>
>jm

There's another move to add to the list! I let CM9000 go a bit longer on my
humble P3-733, and after 15 minutes (about 4 minutes on top-end hardware) it
comes up with b4?! So, I think that makes the following list of candidate moves:

Qh5, c5, b4, Rc3, Re3, Be2

Quite complex!

jm



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