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Subject: Re: The ultimative testposition (from DeepJunior8-Kasparov)

Author: Peter McKenzie

Date: 19:13:56 01/29/03

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On January 29, 2003 at 19:39:26, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On January 29, 2003 at 19:02:29, allan johnson wrote:
>
>>On January 29, 2003 at 17:33:02, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>
>>>On January 29, 2003 at 13:25:41, Thomas Lagershausen wrote:
>>>
>>>>[D]2b2rk1/rp5p/3p1qpQ/2nPpp2/p1P5/R7/PPBN1PPP/4R1K1 w - - avoid 21.b4?
>>>>
>>>>According to Garry Kasparov 21.b4? was the desicive mistake of the game in
>>>>whites play.See also:
>>>>http://www.worldchessrating.com/521916158.html?448451195843518
>>>>
>>>>So is there a program in the world that can handle this position right?
>>>>
>>>>Gentleman start your engines.
>>>>
>>>>TL
>>>>
>>>>PS: Don“t take the headline too serios.
>>>
>>>
>>>Actually Kasparov has said that this entire line led to a forced draw...  Which
>>>means that white did make a mistake by entering the b4 line as white had a nice
>>>position prior to that.
>> If Kasparov knew all this why then did he groan when he played 25... Qa1 ch
>>and not f4?
>>Al
>>
>
>If you saw his quotes, when he played Qf6 and the line was followed, after he
>played Qa1+ he thought he had made a mistake when the game progressed a bit
>further.  However, he and his "group" studied it later and discovered that f4
>_also_ led to a draw as white could play h3.

I wouldn't place too much confidence in that analysis, it was probably done in
quite a hurry, with a lot of emotional attachment, and with little at stake (as
opposed to an adjourned game analysis).

>
>>
>>>
>>>However, _most_ programs would also play b4 as it is a _very_ deep tactical
>>>line that they simply don't understand for quite a while...



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