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Subject: Re: Glory & Riches OR a Barrel with straps (Humans vs. Computer matches)

Author: Russell Reagan

Date: 20:50:20 01/30/03

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On January 30, 2003 at 22:07:50, Sally Weltrop wrote:

>I bet if IBM said to GK, We have Deep Blue 2 and DO you want a rematch but at
>these conditions I bet GK would accept and it would mean more than money this
>time around. Touching a GM's pride can do wonders.

Maybe. Kasparov's disgust of IBM may overwhelm his desire for revenge. Rather
than go through that crap again (in his opinion), he may rather simply decline,
especially given your proposed financial agreement. He may not want revenge. And
let's not forget that IBM is never going to do this. This would be far from a
done deal, even if IBM was willing, and even if there was a large guarenteed sum
of money for Kasparov.

The problem is that this isn't a general solution. It is one isolated situation
involving only one player. Maybe it gets Kasparov to play under your
circumstances, maybe not. What next? Back to the same old conspiracy theories
about how the GM is throwing the match for entertainment's sake.

No super GM is going to take part in an event under your proposal, unless there
is some deep seeded hatred or some other rare circumstance from an already rare
pool of talent. No organizer is going to hold its ground, refusing to pay
Kasparov or Kramnik a nice guarenteed sum, in the hopes of chasing some dream of
"real competition." The organizer is in it to make money, and if that means
paying Kasparov half a million dollars just to show up, they'll do it in a heart
beat.

What motivation does either side have to do this? Look at it from Kasparov's
point of view. He can either:

A) Play his absolute best chess, and he might get paid for it. Best case, he
gets (say) a million dollars (or whatever the winner gets).

B) Just show up and play at whatever level he feels like playing at, get paid a
nice appearance fee at the minimum, and best case he gets a million dollars.

So, no incentive at all for Kasparov. How about the organizer? They can either:

A) Hope they can be the one exception to the rule "beggers can't be choosers",
beg Kasparov to play for nothing, and worst case scenario Kasparov loses and now
hates the oranizers for giving him such a raw deal, and now we have no more
Kasparov vs. computer matches. Thanks a lot organizers. You jerks. So now the
organizers are jerks and they lost future profits. This idea isn't looking too
good...

B) Agree to pay Kasparov a nice guarenteed sum, have a match, make some money,
and everyone walks away with more money in their pockets than they came with,
and everyone is happy, and we'll do it again next year, and make more money, and
entertain more fans. This is sounding hard to beat...

Your idea is an ideal, not reality. It's a pipe dream. It would be wonderful if
every super GM would play like their life was on the line in every game for
free, but it's not going to happen. Work harder for potentially less money? No
thanks. I'll go play in the super GM tournament next month and get a nice
paycheck.



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