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Subject: Re: 10,20 Ghz processor in 2005

Author: Matt Taylor

Date: 00:01:11 01/31/03

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On January 30, 2003 at 23:17:27, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On January 30, 2003 at 19:28:37, Matt Taylor wrote:
>
>>On January 29, 2003 at 10:06:04, Timothy J. Frohlick wrote:
>>
>>>Dr. Nikolski,
>>>
>>>Nehalem is obviously a 64 bit microprocessor using electron-etched circuitry.
>>>Does this mean that it won't run MChess Pro ver. 8? or WChess or Chess Genius
>>>or......?
>>>
>>>Two years to go...for a processor that will run chess programs at 5 to 8 times
>>>the current speed. Do you know how much these things will cost and how much
>>>power they will suck up?
>>>
>>>Tim
>>>
>>>On January 29, 2003 at 07:16:49, Yar wrote:
>>>
>>>>Intel is going to create a 10,20Ghz processor in 2005
>>>>http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=7481
>>>>
>>>>Yar
>>
>>Nehalem -might- be 64-bit. That article gives no indication. Given that Intel
>>already has a 64-bit processor in the works (Yamhill), I would wager no. Nehalem
>>is a descendant of Prescott, not Yamhill.
>>
>>5-8? I think you mean 2-3 times as fast. Current top-of-the-line is the P4 3.06
>>GHz, and the vibe I have been getting from Intel over the past several years is
>>that they're moving -away- from more work per clock on the desktop, so future
>>processors may be less efficient per clock.
>>
>>Wattage is harder to guess, but I would assume that it will be nearing 110-120 W
>>by then.
>>
>>They will cost just as much as Intel chips always have. I remember a time when
>>the high-end original Pentiums cost $500 per chip. Lo and behold, the P4 3.06
>>GHz currently costs almost $700. With that in mind, it is easy to predict what
>>future processors will cost.
>>
>>-Matt
>
>
>That's pure chickenfeed.  :)
>
>check out the price of the xeon processors with 2M L2 cache.  $4000 each,
>roughly.  :)

Xeon is completely different. It's not really a desktop processor. Well, the 2M
L2 cache version isn't! Also, doesn't Itanium ship with Xeon versions? I don't
think they charge $4,000 for -any- iteration of P4 despite how overpriced it is.

I was also thinking over claims that future CPUs from Intel may include IA-64
support as well...hmm...I had heard Intel planned to put IA-64 on the desktop,
but with all the things they had to cut from P4 to conserve die space, combining
them on-die seems unlikely. Either they're talking about an efficient IA-32 to
IA-64 translator, or this really sounds bogus.

Interesting that Intel cut their x86-64 project, too.

-Matt



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