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Subject: Re: Man Can Beat Machine Until He Gets Tired - Try This Simple Game

Author: Graham Laight

Date: 08:10:56 01/31/03

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On January 31, 2003 at 11:02:29, Jonas Cohonas wrote:

>On January 31, 2003 at 10:48:43, Graham Laight wrote:
>
>>On January 31, 2003 at 10:35:56, Jonas Cohonas wrote:
>>
>>>On January 31, 2003 at 10:33:53, Graham Laight wrote:
>>>
>>>>On January 31, 2003 at 10:25:20, Jonas Cohonas wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On January 31, 2003 at 10:19:57, Graham Laight wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On January 31, 2003 at 08:46:53, Fernando Alonso wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I urge you to have a go!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>It'll only take you 2 minutes at the default 49 level.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>http://mysite.freeserve.com/grahamlaight/jscript/GuessWhichHand.htm
>>>>>>>>(works fine under IE - Netscape fault will be fixed over the weekend)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>-g
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Uri
>>>>>>>Here is a 201 win. You have it also on your mailbox :)
>>>>>>>It was fun playing against it. I just tried to think what your program would
>>>>>>>thik i was thinking :)
>>>>>>>The more guesses i took the harder it became to beat it, you pattern recognition
>>>>>>>works very well !
>>>>>>>Regards,
>>>>>>>Fernando Alonso.
>>>>>>>L1 L0 L0 L0 L1 L1 R1 L0 L1 R1 R1 L1 R0 R1 R1 R1 L1 R0 R1 R1 R0 R1 L1 R1 L1 R1 R1
>>>>>>>R1 L0 L1 L1 L0 L0 L1 L1 L1 L1 L0 R0 L0 R0 R1 R0 R1 R0 R1 L1 L0 R0 R1 R1 R0 R1 R1
>>>>>>>L1 R1 R0 R1 R0 R0 R1 R0 L1 R1 L0 R1 R1 L0 L1 L0 L0 L0 L0 L0 L0 R1 L0 L0 R0 L0 L1
>>>>>>>L0 L1 R1 R0 R1 R0 R0 L1 R1 L1 R0 L0 R0 L0 R1 R0 L1 R1 L0 R0 R0 R0 R0 R0 R0 R0 R1
>>>>>>>R1 R1 R0 R0 L0 R1 L1 L1 R0 R1 L1 R1 R1 L1 R0 R1 L1 L0 R0 R0 L1 R0 R1 R1 R0 R0 R1
>>>>>>>R1 L1 R0 R0 L0 R0 R0 R0 R0 L1 R1 L1 L1 L0 L1 L1 R0 R1 R0 L1 R1 R1 R1 R1 L1 R0 L1
>>>>>>>L0 R0 R1 R0 L1 L0 R0 R1 R0 R0 L1 L1 L1 L1 L0 R0 R1 R0 R0 L0 R1 R0 R0 R0 R0 R0 L1
>>>>>>>L1 R1 L1 R1 L0 R0 R1 L1 R1 L0 R0 R0
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Thankyou very much for playing at this level. I have to say - you are actually a
>>>>>>better player than me - and I wrote the damn game!  :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Anyway - although you felt you were struggling later on, your 2nd half results
>>>>>>were by no means disgraceful.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Overall you won by 105-96 - a very good score! Clearly some good games players
>>>>>>at CCC!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>In the first half, you won by a creditable 55-45. You lost in the 2nd half - but
>>>>>>only by 50-51 - which hardly constitutes proof that the web page was then
>>>>>>outplaying you.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Congratulations!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>-g
>>>>>
>>>>>L0 L1 L1 L1 R0 R0 L1 R0 L1 R0 L1 L0 L1 L1 R1 R1 R0 L0 L1 L0 L1 R1 R0 R0 L1 L1 L1
>>>>>R1 R0 R0 L0 R1 L0 R0 R1 L0 R0 R1 R1 R0 L1 L0 L0 L0 R1 L0 R0 L1 L1
>>>>>
>>>>>I won by one over 40 try's (this was my first try)
>>>>>
>>>>>Regards
>>>>>Jonas
>>>>
>>>>You won by 25-24 - congratulations! Now try a larger number of goes, please...
>>>>:)
>>>>
>>>>-g
>>>
>>>Here you go 201 try's:
>>>
>>>L1 L1 L1 R0 R0 L0 R1 R1 R1 R1 L0 L1 L1 R1 R1 R1 L0 L0 R0 L0 R1 R0 L1 R0 R0 L0 L1
>>>L1 L1 R0 L1 L1 L0 L0 R1 L0 R1 R0 L1 L1 L1 R1 R0 L1 L0 L1 L1 R0 L1 R1 R0 L1 L0 R1
>>>R1 L1 R1 R0 R0 L0 L1 L0 R1 R1 R0 L0 L1 L0 R1 L0 R1 R0 R1 R0 R1 L0 R1 L1 L0 L1 R0
>>>L0 L1 L0 L1 L1 L1 R0 L1 R1 R0 L0 L0 L0 R1 L0 R0 L0 R0 L1 L0 R1 R0 L1 L1 L1 L1 L1
>>>R0 L1 R1 R0 L0 L1 L0 L0 L0 R0 R0 L0 L1 L0 L1 L0 L1 R0 L1 L0 R1 R1 R0 L1 L0 R1 R1
>>>L0 L0 L1 L1 L0 L1 R0 L1 R1 R0 R0 R1 R1 R0 L1 L0 R0 R0 R0 R1 L0 L0 R0 R1 L1 L1 L0
>>>R0 L1 L0 R1 L0 R1 R0 L1 L0 L1 L1 L1 R0 R1 L1 L1 L0 R0 R1 R0 L1 L1 L0 L1 R0 L1 L0
>>>R0 L0 L0 L0 L1 L1 L0 L0 L1 L1 L0 R0
>>>
>>>I won by 5 103 - 98
>>>
>>>This is getting addictive :)
>>>
>>>Regards
>>>Jonas
>>
>>Bloody hell - either I'm the worst player of this game in the world, or people
>>out there are not admitting to their defeats!  :)
>>
>>Anyway - you won easily in the 1st half, 54-46, but in the 2nd half you lost
>>49-52, which implies that the web page had some degree of success in learning
>>your playing style.
>>
>>-g
>
>To be quite honest this was my first two try's, i am sure though that with
>enough games i would lose more than i would win, like most people.
>
>It seems that the # of left's are greater than the # right's which gave me quite
>a lead at some point, maybe you could check what the highest margain was?
>
>(i think i was leading with a margain of 15 at some point)
>
>Regards
>Jonas

You are correct - in your game you guessed left 118 times, and right only 83
times.

I have thought of some ways in which I can improve the computer's performance in
this game - and I might just implement them over the weekend. Unfortuantely,
since this game hasn't been studied as deeply as chess, I don't know how good it
is possible to get at this game. It doesn't help that I personally seem to be a
"below average" player...

-g



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