Author: Antonio Dieguez
Date: 20:06:17 01/31/03
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On January 31, 2003 at 22:59:54, Bob Durrett wrote: >On January 31, 2003 at 22:29:07, chandler yergin wrote: > >>(19283) Alekhine,A - Maroczy,G [D55] >>Karlsbad Karlsbad, 1923 >> >>1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.Nf3 d5 4.Nc3 Be7 5.Bg5 0-0 6.e3 Ne4 7.Bxe7 Qxe7 8.Qb3 Nxc3 >>9.Qxc3 c6 10.Bd3 Nd7 11.0-0 f5 12.Rac1 g5 13.Nd2 Rf7 14.f3 e5 15.cxd5 cxd5 16.e4 >>fxe4 17.fxe4 Rxf1+ 18.Rxf1 exd4 19.Qc7 Kg7 20.Rf5 dxe4 21.Nxe4 Qb4 22.Rxg5+ 1-0 >>In the above game after move 12 for Black (g5) Alekhine in his notes says >>".. quite astonishing from a Master of Maroczy's reputation." A couple of >>other GM's in their books, comment "Incredible" "What was the guy drinking" >>Well, I decided to run this through Fritz 5.32, Hiarcs 8, Fritz 8 and none of >>them even suggested Alekhin's followup even after letting them run for hours. >>This seems to be a position that Computers just don't understand like human >>GM's. Hooray, for the Carbon Base thinkers over the Silicon! > >It strikes me that either you didn't go far enough in your analysis, or you did >more but just didn't mention it above. > >Most interesting would be to find out what the computer thought of the move >after you forced it. The computer might not find the move, but after looking at >the position following that move, the computer might then acknowledge that it >was a good move. > >If the computer still does not acknowledge that the move was good, it may take a >lot more analysis to rule out the possibility of horizon effects. [Does >Alekhine give a suggested line?] > >All of the above assumes that the move was good, but even Alekhine could be >wrong. > >Bob D. Hi, actually the moves are easy to computers, not a good example of human play. If those programs didn't play them is because they chose others by a small margin. Amyan plays all white moves since move 12, except Rxf1(it prefers the more odd Bxf1 even after 3 minutes)
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