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Subject: Re: testposition endgame

Author: John Merlino

Date: 10:46:44 02/01/03

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On February 01, 2003 at 13:06:38, Steven J. Brann wrote:

>On February 01, 2003 at 09:38:27, Eduard Nemeth wrote:
>
>>[D]8/8/kb6/2p5/ppP5/1P6/PK6/8 b - - 0 1
>>
>>This is a komposition from me.
>>
>>Which plays Your program? ;-)
>>
>>( 1...a3+ is only a draw )
>>
>>My Chess:
>>
>>http://www.eduardonline.de.vu
>
>
>CM9000 finds Bc7 initially then the eval bumps up at 0:49 with Kb7.  The score
>increases significantly with depth of search.  Analysis on a 1.9G P4 computer
>with default personality except for selective search = 12 and 128MB hash.
>
>
>Time	Depth	Score	Positions	Moves
>0:14	14/23	-3.48	6111355		1...Bb6-c7 2.Kb2-c2 Ka6-b6 3.Kc2-d3
>					Kb6-c6 4.Kd3-e4 Kc6-d6 5.Ke4-f5
>					Bc7-d8 6.Kf5-e4 Bd8-f6 7.Ke4-f5
>					Bf6-c3 8.Kf5-g6 a4xb3 9.a2xb3 Kd6-e6
>					10.Kg6-h7 Bc3-e5 11.Kh7-g6 Be5-c7
>					12.Kg6-g7 Ke6-e5 13.Kg7-f7
>0:19	15/24	-3.52	8025717		1...Bb6-c7 2.Kb2-c2 Ka6-b6 3.Kc2-d3
>					Kb6-c6 4.Kd3-e4 Kc6-d6 5.Ke4-f5
>					Bc7-d8 6.Kf5-e4 Bd8-f6 7.Ke4-f5
>					Bf6-c3 8.Kf5-g6 a4xb3 9.a2xb3 Kd6-e6
>					10.Kg6-h7 Ke6-f7 11.Kh7-h6 Kf7-f6
>					12.Kh6-h7 Bc3-e5 13.Kh7-h6 Be5-d6
>					14.Kh6-h5 Kf6-e5
>0:30	16/25	-3.54	11835219	1...Bb6-c7 2.Kb2-c2 Ka6-b6 3.Kc2-d3
>					Kb6-c6 4.Kd3-e4 Kc6-d6 5.Ke4-f5
>					Bc7-d8 6.Kf5-e4 Bd8-f6 7.Ke4-f5
>					Bf6-c3 8.b3xa4 Kd6-c6 9.a4-a5 Bc3-d4
>					10.Kf5-g4 Kc6-b7 11.Kg4-f5 Bd4-e3
>					12.Kf5-g4 Kb7-a6 13.Kg4-h3 Ka6xa5
>					14.Kh3-g4
>0:49	16/25	-6.58	19238805	1...Ka6-b7 2.Kb2-c2 a4xb3+ 3.a2xb3
>					Kb7-c6 4.Kc2-d3 Kc6-d6 5.Kd3-e4
>					Kd6-e6 6.Ke4-f4 Bb6-d8 7.Kf4-e4
>					Bd8-g5 8.Ke4-d3 Ke6-e5 9.Kd3-c2
>					Ke5-d4 10.Kc2-b2 Kd4-d3 11.Kb2-b1
>					Kd3-c3 12.Kb1-a2 Bg5-f4 13.Ka2-a1
>					Kc3xb3 14.Ka1-b1 Kb3xc4 15.Kb1-c2
>1:03	17/26	-6.77	24434903	1...Ka6-b7 2.Kb2-c2 a4xb3+ 3.a2xb3
>					Kb7-c6 4.Kc2-d3 Kc6-d6 5.Kd3-e4
>					Kd6-e6 6.Ke4-f4 Bb6-d8 7.Kf4-e4
>					Bd8-g5 8.Ke4-d3 Ke6-e5 9.Kd3-c2
>					Ke5-d4 10.Kc2-b2 Kd4-d3 11.Kb2-b1
>					Kd3-c3 12.Kb1-a2 Bg5-f4 13.Ka2-a1
>					Kc3xb3 14.Ka1-b1 Kb3-c3 15.Kb1-a2
>					b4-b3+ 16.Ka2-b1 Kc3xc4
>1:41	18/27	-6.86	37327060	1...Ka6-b7 2.Kb2-c2 a4xb3+ 3.a2xb3
>					Kb7-c6 4.Kc2-d3 Kc6-d6 5.Kd3-e4
>					Kd6-e6 6.Ke4-f4 Bb6-d8 7.Kf4-e4
>					Bd8-g5 8.Ke4-d3 Ke6-e5 9.Kd3-c2
>					Ke5-d4 10.Kc2-b2 Kd4-d3 11.Kb2-b1
>					Kd3-c3 12.Kb1-a2 Bg5-f4 13.Ka2-a1
>					Kc3xb3 14.Ka1-b1 Bf4-g5 15.Kb1-a1
>					Kb3xc4 16.Ka1-a2 Kc4-c3
>2:48	19/28	-6.91	58054235	1...Ka6-b7 2.Kb2-c2 a4xb3+ 3.a2xb3
>					Kb7-c6 4.Kc2-d3 Kc6-d6 5.Kd3-e4
>					Kd6-e6 6.Ke4-f4 Bb6-d8 7.Kf4-e4
>					Bd8-g5 8.Ke4-d3 Ke6-e5 9.Kd3-c2
>					Ke5-d4 10.Kc2-b2 Kd4-d3 11.Kb2-b1
>					Kd3-c3 12.Kb1-a2 Bg5-f4 13.Ka2-a1
>					Kc3xb3 14.Ka1-b1 Bf4-g5 15.Kb1-a1
>					Kb3xc4 16.Ka1-b2 Bg5-f6+
>4:39	20/29	-7.16	91530777	1...Ka6-b7 2.Kb2-c2 a4xb3+ 3.a2xb3
>					Kb7-c6 4.Kc2-d3 Kc6-d6 5.Kd3-e4
>					Kd6-e6 6.Ke4-f4 Bb6-d8 7.Kf4-e4
>					Bd8-g5 8.Ke4-d3 Ke6-e5 9.Kd3-c2
>					Ke5-d4 10.Kc2-b2 Bg5-f4 11.Kb2-b1
>					Kd4-c3 12.Kb1-a2 Bf4-c1 13.Ka2-a1
>					Kc3xb3 14.Ka1-b1 Kb3xc4 15.Kb1-c2
>					b4-b3+ 16.Kc2-d1 Bc1-g5
>9:45	21/30	-10.55	186565650	1...Ka6-b7 2.Kb2-c2 a4xb3+ 3.a2xb3
>					Kb7-c6 4.Kc2-d3 Kc6-d6 5.Kd3-e4
>					Kd6-e6 6.Ke4-f4 Bb6-d8 7.Kf4-e4
>					Bd8-g5 8.Ke4-d3 Ke6-e5 9.Kd3-c2
>					Ke5-d4 10.Kc2-d1 Kd4-c3 11.Kd1-e2
>					Kc3xb3 12.Ke2-d3 Bg5-f4 13.Kd3-e2
>					Kb3xc4 14.Ke2-f3 b4-b3 15.Kf3xf4
>					b3-b2 16.Kf4-f3 b2-b1=Q
>14:01	22/31	-10.83	261307554	1...Ka6-b7 2.Kb2-c2 a4xb3+ 3.a2xb3
>					Kb7-c6 4.Kc2-d3 Kc6-d6 5.Kd3-e4
>					Kd6-e6 6.Ke4-f4 Bb6-d8 7.Kf4-e4
>					Bd8-g5 8.Ke4-d3 Ke6-e5 9.Kd3-e2
>					Ke5-d4 10.Ke2-f3 Bg5-h6 11.Kf3-g4
>					Kd4-c3 12.Kg4-f5 Kc3xb3 13.Kf5-g6
>					Kb3xc4 14.Kg6xh6 Kc4-c3 15.Kh6-g5
>					b4-b3 16.Kg5-f4 b3-b2
>
>
>Steve

Interesting. The default personality, on a much slower P3-733, finds Kb7 in less
than 1/3 the time -- 15 seconds to be precise! Hmmmm.....

Either way, as somebody else pointed out, it appears that the key to this
position is not to find Kb7, but to avoid a3+....

Time	Depth	Score	Positions	Moves
0:06	13/17	-3.38	875778		1...a3+ 2.Kc2 Kb7 3.Kd3 Kc6 4.Ke3
					Bc7 5.Kf3 Kd6 6.Ke4 Ke6 7.Kd3 Kf5
					8.Ke3 Bf4+ 9.Kd3 Ke5 10.Ke2 Ke4
0:09	14/18	-3.45	1395259		1...a3+ 2.Kc2 Kb7 3.Kd3 Kc6 4.Ke3
					Bc7 5.Kf3 Kd6 6.Ke4 Ke6 7.Kd3 Kf5
					8.Ke3 Bf4+ 9.Kd3 Ke5 10.Ke2 Ke4
					11.Kf1
0:10	15/19	-3.37	1707877		1...a3+ 2.Kc2 Kb7 3.Kd3 Kc6 4.Ke3
					Bc7 5.Kf3 Kd6 6.Ke4 Ke6 7.Kd3 Kf5
					8.Ke3 Be5 9.Kd3 Bd4 10.Kd2 Ke4
					11.Ke2
0:15	15/19	-3.40	2648562		1...Kb7 2.Kc2 axb3+ 3.axb3 Kc6
					4.Kd3 Kd6 5.Ke4 Bd8 6.Kf5 Bg5 7.Ke4
					Ke6 8.Kd3 Kf5 9.Kc2 Ke4 10.Kb1
					Kd4 11.Kb2
0:21	16/20	-3.39	3665202		1...Kb7 2.Kc2 Bd8 3.Kd3 Bc7 4.Ke4
					Bd6 5.Kd3 Kc6 6.Ke3 a3 7.Ke4 Bc7
					8.Kf5 Kd6 9.Kf6 Kd7 10.Kf5 Bh2
					11.Ke4 Ke6
0:28	17/21	-3.48	4745899		1...Kb7 2.Kc2 Bd8 3.Kd3 Bc7 4.Ke4
					Bd6 5.Kd3 Kc6 6.Ke3 a3 7.Ke4 Bc7
					8.Kf5 Kd7 9.Kf6 Bg3 10.Kg5 Kd6
					11.Kg4 Bh2 12.Kf5
0:37	18/22	-3.50	6179884		1...Kb7 2.Kc2 Bd8 3.Kd3 Bc7 4.Ke4
					Bd6 5.Kd3 Kc6 6.Ke3 a3 7.Ke4 Be7
					8.Kd3 Kd6 9.Ke4 Bf6 10.Kd3 Be5
					11.Ke3 Bc3 12.Ke4
0:54	19/23	-3.91	8798309		1...Kb7 2.Kc2 Bd8 3.Kd3 axb3 4.axb3
					Kc6 5.Ke4 Kd6 6.Kf5 Bg5 7.Ke4 Ke6
					8.Kd3 Ke5 9.Kc2 Bf4 10.Kd3 Bc1
					11.Kc2 Kd4 12.Kb1 Kc3 13.Kxc1 Kxb3
					14.Kb1 Kxc4 15.Kc2
1:45	20/24	-5.53	16656943	1...Kb7 2.Kc2 axb3+ 3.axb3 Kc6
					4.Kd3 Kd6 5.Ke4 Ke6 6.Kd3 Kf5 7.Ke3
					Bc7 8.Kd3 Bf4 9.Ke2 Ke4 10.Kf2
					Kd4 11.Kf3 Kc3 12.Ke2 Kxb3 13.Kd3
					Kb2
2:22	21/25	-6.58	22205635	1...Kb7 2.Kc2 axb3+ 3.axb3 Kc6
					4.Kd3 Kd6 5.Ke4 Ke6 6.Kd3 Bd8 7.Kc2
					Bg5 8.Kd3 Ke5 9.Kc2 Kd4 10.Kb2
					Kd3 11.Kb1 Kc3 12.Ka2 Bf4 13.Ka1
					Kxb3 14.Kb1 Kxc4 15.Kc2
3:16	22/26	-6.55	30260687	1...Kb7 2.Kc2 axb3+ 3.axb3 Kc6
					4.Kd3 Kd6 5.Ke4 Ke6 6.Kd3 Bd8 7.Kc2
					Bg5 8.Kd3 Ke5 9.Kc2 Ke4 10.Kb1
					Kd3 11.Kb2 Bf6+ 12.Kb1 Kc3 13.Ka2
					Bg5 14.Ka1 Kxb3 15.Kb1 Kxc4 16.Kc2
5:31	23/27	-7.13	48276956	1...Kb7 2.Kc2 axb3+ 3.axb3 Kc6
					4.Kd3 Kd6 5.Ke4 Ke6 6.Kd3 Kf5 7.Ke3
					Bc7 8.Kd3 Bf4 9.Kc2 Ke4 10.Kd1
					Kd3 11.Ke1 Kc3 12.Ke2 Bg5 13.Kf3
					Kxb3 14.Ke4 Kxc4 15.Kf5 Kc3 16.Ke4

jm



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