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Subject: Re: Some thought about FH reductions

Author: Gerd Isenberg

Date: 03:20:57 02/03/03

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On February 02, 2003 at 09:06:46, Bas Hamstra wrote:

>There are some succes stories about replacing nullmove with FH reductions. In
>fact what Ed Schroeder does is the same thing, in my opinion. I am interested in
>other experiences with this technique. So far I find it disappointing. The idea
>is to reduce the search whenever in the FW search the color to move's static
>evaluation (minus a static threat evaluation) is already above beta without
>having moved. Suppose you combine this with nullmove, and you do a nullmove
>first. If the nulmove fails high, you obviously won't profit from FHR. If the
>nullmove fails low, what on earth would you reduce the search for??? It can only
>be wrong... So to really profit from it, you would have to do FHR first. So if
>static-threat > beta, you would reduce the search one ply before doing the
>regular nullmove code. A couple of thoughts: in stead of static eval minus
>static threat, you might as well do a nullmove+qsearch, I would say. However
>neither will be really accurate and you end up using R=4 where you really
>shouldn't. Any thought on this?
>
>Best regards,
>Bas.

Hi Bas,

As far as i remember, the original FHR-approach was intruduced by Rainer
Feldmann, one of the authors of Zugzwang (Advances in Computer Chess 96?). It is
based on Nullmove observation, but instead of a possibly risky Nullmove cutoff,
the search depth was simply reduced by one ply.

What success stories do you mean?

Regards,
Gerd



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