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Subject: Re: German Kishon's relevations about DEEPJUNIOR

Author: Rolf Tueschen

Date: 04:56:27 02/03/03

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On February 03, 2003 at 07:44:27, Uri Blass wrote:

>On February 03, 2003 at 06:54:19, Rolf Tueschen wrote:
><snipped>
>> We all
>>know that a chain is only as strong as its weakest member.
>
>No
>
>I do not know it.


But this is not my fault then, Uri. It's simply knowledge. Very old knowledge.
If you have a giant to fight, then you look, where he's vulnerable, no??? And IF
his vulnerable spot or habit is constant, fixed, you start to treat exactly that
spot. You are not stupid and start on his strong, too strong, sides. A chain
will always break in its weakest member. Try it. Open a bit one member, so that
it's weak compared with the others, then you will see the result.




>
> Who could seriously
>>doubt that? But in computerchess that happens every day! People create a huge
>>confusion just to tweak the truth. And the truth is that because chess programs
>>have weaknesses even a 1700 player wouldn't have, they can't be - by definition
>>- Grandmaster or beware Super Grandmaster, they are not even International
>>Master - - - _IF_, and only if the mentioned groups would be in a serious
>>competition with such an _individual_ chess program and NOT always with a little
>>b
>
>By your theory computers cannot be even 1700 players but it is obvious that even
>better players who tried to play against them find that they have no chance
>because they canot get the positions that they understand better in the board or
>cannot aboid losing in position when they had the advantage.
>
>Without discussing the question about the exact level of computers I think that
>nobody will claim that computers are weaker than 1700 players.
>
>Uri


Unfortunately you snipped the major part of my message. So by definition you can
deal with the isolated snips and get false perceptions.

Chess is not a one-dimensional action. So if 1700 is the weakness, that weakness
can't be explotated in 100% of the cases. So by force the Elo number will
increase. Because we were in consense that comps could well be 2700 tactically.
So then you get my "estimated" 2400 in brutal competition. NOT in freaky show
events of course.

Rolf Tueschen



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