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Subject: Re: Nice Game (Diep - Chezzz)

Author: John Merlino

Date: 15:41:44 02/03/03

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On February 03, 2003 at 18:03:14, David Rasmussen wrote:

>On February 03, 2003 at 16:05:54, John Merlino wrote:
>
>>>
>>>6... Ng4 is exactly Chezzz's first move out of book :)
>>
>>Time to add one or two more moves to the book, eh? :-)
>>
>
>Actually, I had just adjusted my book and my book code to use and hopefully
>higher quality book moves, because I don't have any book learning or any other
>ways of filtering bad moves. So it was "intentional". That Chezzz moved Ng4 was
>not so fortunate if it is really a bad move. Then I'd rather improve my eval.

Of course, that's preferable. CM9000 says that Ng4 is not even one of the top 10
moves, and its eval is almost a half-pawn worse than h6.

>>>>21...Bf5 wins handily, according to Chessmaster 9000. The eval is more than 2
>>>>points in Black's favor, whereas after Chezzz's 21...Bd7 the eval is almost one
>>>>point less (although I'm sure Chezzz would be winning with either move).
>>>>
>>>
>>>Chezzz finds it too, although it takes 4:30 :) And I don't think Chezzz thought
>>>that long in the game. If Chessmaster finds it in much shorter time, I'm not
>>>surprised. It is because it is a much stronger program generally, and
>>>specifically a much more effecient searcher. Maybe it's even because of some
>>>specific extension etc. ?
>>
>>CM9000, on a P3-733, finds Bf5 in 4 seconds, and the eval jumps nicely after 17
>>seconds:
>>
>>Time	Depth	Score	Positions	Moves
>>0:00	1/3	-0.17	6831		21...Bd7 22.Qb4 Qb6
>>0:00	1/4	-0.35	18949		21...Bd7 22.Ne4 Qa8 23.Nec3
>>0:01	1/5	-0.29	76005		21...Bd7 22.Qb4 Qb6 23.Ne4 Rfa8
>>					24.Bb1
>>0:02	1/6	-0.27	170837		21...Bd7 22.Bb1 Qb6 23.Rhe1 h6
>>					24.Nf3 Bxb5 25.cxb5 Qxb5+ 26.Qb4
>>0:04	1/6	-0.75	341155		21...Bf5 22.Bxf5 Qa8 23.Rxa1 bxa1=Q
>>					24.Rxa1 Qxa1 25.Bd3 Ra8
>>0:06	1/7	-0.75	478940		21...Bf5 22.Bxf5 Qa8 23.Rxa1 bxa1=Q
>>					24.Rxa1 Qxa1 25.Bd3 Ra8
>>0:17	1/8	-2.03	1382148		21...Bf5 22.Bxf5 Qa8 23.Rxa1 bxa1=Q
>>					24.Rxa1 Qxa1 25.Ne6 fxe6 26.Bxe6+
>>					Kh8 27.f4
>>0:29	1/9	-2.12	2314538		21...Bf5 22.Bxf5 Qa8 23.Rxa1 bxa1=Q
>>					24.Rxa1 Qxa1 25.Ne6 fxe6 26.Bxe6+
>>					Kh8 27.f3
>>1:11	1/10	-2.09	5848036		21...Bf5 22.Rxa1 bxa1=Q 23.Rxa1
>>					Bxa1 24.Bxf5 gxf5 25.Qf4 h6 26.Nf3
>>					Bg7 27.Qxf5 Qa5
>>3:03	2/11	-2.40	15593005	21...Bf5 22.Rxa1 bxa1=Q 23.Rxa1
>>					Bxa1 24.Bxf5 gxf5 25.Qf4 h6 26.Nf3
>>					Bg7 27.Qxf5 Qa5 28.Qd7 Ra8
>>
>>jm
>
>I wish I knew how it does that... :)

So do I....

jm



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