Author: allan johnson
Date: 16:35:27 02/03/03
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On February 03, 2003 at 18:47:45, Rolf Tueschen wrote: >On February 03, 2003 at 18:00:35, Sune Fischer wrote: > >>On February 03, 2003 at 12:59:42, Rolf Tueschen wrote: >> >>>I've waited for that one for years! >> >>Glad to be of service :) >> >>>The point is this. All these stars get much >>>money but then? They also do something for their own education to make a good >>>appearence in public! But with Kasparov, ok, he also gets new clothes, but he >>>simply can't change his speech center! I counted just a few incredible >>>statements and contradictions. Perhaps that is Aserbeidjan culture, who knows, >>>but you normally don't insult you partners who organized such a bunch of money. >> >>I agree with you, I don't know what is up with that. >>Garry is just a real poor loser, but I believe that is common trade among the >>great sportsmen, they do not like to lose. >>It doesn't excuse bad manners of course. >> >>>Look, in 97 I was pro Kasparov because I found the second game till now strange. >>>But what he now told us about the 6th game and here about the first three games >>>is crap. 97 crap: If he were out why he still made such experiments in the >>>opening. 2003 crap: If the games were won then why Kasparov didn't win? The >>>whole question is nonsense of course because I know why he didn't win. >> >>Yeah, and that is the point. >>I think he was better in the first three at some point, but if Garry couldn't >>win a won position, that is not Juniors fault. I don't see how he can use that >>as an excuse, what kind of a player is he if he can't win from a won positione? > A human player? Al >>You got it! That is the whole question! But Kasparov seems not being aware of >the contradiction! That frightens me. Could it be that his supernatural vice is >getting on him? Perhaps supported by his mother Klara? Perhaps he wanted to play >because she is going for shopping. > > > >>Strange kind of argument, but I think that is what happened. >> >>I think the games so far has shown that the programs still have room for some >>improvement, but apparently even with all of their current weaknesses they are >>able to match the best. Quite a scary thought actually. > >Not so scary if you have in mind what a weak player Kasparov is, when he can't >win won positions! > >:) > > >> >> >>> Because >>>he's paid for a promotion. But his argumentation is incredible. Perhaps, just >>>perhaps, he really thinks that must say such nonsense to appear as a real >>>fighter against the comp team when in real they are all buddies. Either way >>>round it's a cheat. Arrogant cheat. Because let the knowies know, but don't give >>>such a schizo appearence so that everybody gets confused included Kasparov! LOL >>> >>>I mean show bizz is like show bizz. But don't take experts for a ride and >>>worship an average program as a new heroe with GAMES who speak their own >>>language, namely that Kasparov again wasn't prepared and was not willing to win >>>or draw. >> >>I can't quite understand your reasoning here, if this was show bizz, > >But it IS, didn't you read the links? What Alburt said? I guess that is what >real expert are thinking. Playing comps is like playing a talented kid in a >simul. Is that for you a World Championship Game too? > > > > >> why is he >>putting down the program so much? > >You got it again. That is why I'm so upset about his attitude. Isn't it a >scandal? I think this. Directly after a game it's for many in sport impossible >to relativate. They are still on adrenaline and are furious or depressive to >death. That is like a psychiatric attack. I think I am the first who discovered >that in Kasparov. 1997 I didn't consider that possible interpretation but >actually I can no longer deny it. It's a fact. His reasoning is on the level of >a very smart and talented child without internal logic of course. I see no other >interpretation for such incredible nonsense and impoliteness. > > > > > >>Shouldn't he have said "this program is way >>better than Deeper Blue, go buy it, even I am having great trouble with it"? > >Yes that was already done prior to the games. DJ stronger than DB2... > > > > >> >>His attitude signals that he wants to crush this thing badly, doesn't seem fixed >>at all, in fact it open war. >> >>If Garry is that good an actor then someone needs to give the man an Oscar, he >>sure has me fooled. > > >He's a macho from the South. Always very dramatic. But surely in his >selfperception very honest. > > > >> >>It is not that I haven't thought about it, boxers do it all the time in the >>press conferences, but I believe Garry is for real here. > >He's now in that same trap he was in in 1997. He wants to be a heroe, he is an >actor, but apparently that costs him part of his ability to judge things. In >Prague for instance, where he played just for fun only to then make a political >coup with FIDE he was much more himself. But if he had to play for winning in >Prague, he would perhaps had created his own FIDE again. Don't expect me to give >a fair judgement, I'm not a clair voyant. I just count one and two together. >:) > > > >> >>Consider that he lost to DB and have waited 6 years for resurrection, he is not >>going to blow this if he can do anything about it. His name in the history books >>is at stake here, his gigantic ego simply won't allow him to throw a match like >>this one, even for 1 mill. > >I doubt that he has room for such thoughts. Eternity is already assured. That >doesn't depend on the actual show. But I fear Garry is misinterpreting the >importance of these hundreds of thousands of dollars. Let's speak it out. >Compared to his real importance such a sum is a joke. Hollywood actors get 20 >million dollars. Tiger Woods gets Garry's sum every three days. Nobody really >cares what Kasparov does in that 28th floor in that Athletic club. Freaky at >best. That is the sad truth about chess in the USA. So Garry is happy that he >can write on the internet for millions of chess playing experts in Russia! But >USA is just the site with the money source. Sad but true. Semi-famous people are >engaged to attend the event and they do it like another talk show gig. It's so >sad. > >Rolf Tueschen > > >> >>-S
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