Author: Rolf Tueschen
Date: 16:47:11 02/03/03
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On February 03, 2003 at 19:35:27, allan johnson wrote: >On February 03, 2003 at 18:47:45, Rolf Tueschen wrote: > >>On February 03, 2003 at 18:00:35, Sune Fischer wrote: >> >>>On February 03, 2003 at 12:59:42, Rolf Tueschen wrote: >>> >>>>I've waited for that one for years! >>> >>>Glad to be of service :) >>> >>>>The point is this. All these stars get much >>>>money but then? They also do something for their own education to make a good >>>>appearence in public! But with Kasparov, ok, he also gets new clothes, but he >>>>simply can't change his speech center! I counted just a few incredible >>>>statements and contradictions. Perhaps that is Aserbeidjan culture, who knows, >>>>but you normally don't insult you partners who organized such a bunch of money. >>> >>>I agree with you, I don't know what is up with that. >>>Garry is just a real poor loser, but I believe that is common trade among the >>>great sportsmen, they do not like to lose. >>>It doesn't excuse bad manners of course. >>> >>>>Look, in 97 I was pro Kasparov because I found the second game till now strange. >>>>But what he now told us about the 6th game and here about the first three games >>>>is crap. 97 crap: If he were out why he still made such experiments in the >>>>opening. 2003 crap: If the games were won then why Kasparov didn't win? The >>>>whole question is nonsense of course because I know why he didn't win. >>> >>>Yeah, and that is the point. >>>I think he was better in the first three at some point, but if Garry couldn't >>>win a won position, that is not Juniors fault. I don't see how he can use that >>>as an excuse, what kind of a player is he if he can't win from a won positione? > >> A human player? >Al >>>You got it! That is the whole question! But Kasparov seems not being aware of >>the contradiction! That frightens me. Could it be that his supernatural vice is >>getting on him? Perhaps supported by his mother Klara? Perhaps he wanted to play >>because she is going for shopping. >> >> >> >>>Strange kind of argument, but I think that is what happened. >>> >>>I think the games so far has shown that the programs still have room for some >>>improvement, but apparently even with all of their current weaknesses they are >>>able to match the best. Quite a scary thought actually. >> >>Not so scary if you have in mind what a weak player Kasparov is, when he can't >>win won positions! >> >>:) >> >> >>> >>> >>>> Because >>>>he's paid for a promotion. But his argumentation is incredible. Perhaps, just >>>>perhaps, he really thinks that must say such nonsense to appear as a real >>>>fighter against the comp team when in real they are all buddies. Either way >>>>round it's a cheat. Arrogant cheat. Because let the knowies know, but don't give >>>>such a schizo appearence so that everybody gets confused included Kasparov! LOL >>>> >>>>I mean show bizz is like show bizz. But don't take experts for a ride and >>>>worship an average program as a new heroe with GAMES who speak their own >>>>language, namely that Kasparov again wasn't prepared and was not willing to win >>>>or draw. >>> >>>I can't quite understand your reasoning here, if this was show bizz, >> >>But it IS, didn't you read the links? What Alburt said? I guess that is what >>real expert are thinking. Playing comps is like playing a talented kid in a >>simul. Is that for you a World Championship Game too? >> >> >> >> >>> why is he >>>putting down the program so much? >> >>You got it again. That is why I'm so upset about his attitude. Isn't it a >>scandal? I think this. Directly after a game it's for many in sport impossible >>to relativate. They are still on adrenaline and are furious or depressive to >>death. That is like a psychiatric attack. I think I am the first who discovered >>that in Kasparov. 1997 I didn't consider that possible interpretation but >>actually I can no longer deny it. It's a fact. His reasoning is on the level of >>a very smart and talented child without internal logic of course. I see no other >>interpretation for such incredible nonsense and impoliteness. >> >> >> >> >> >>>Shouldn't he have said "this program is way >>>better than Deeper Blue, go buy it, even I am having great trouble with it"? >> >>Yes that was already done prior to the games. DJ stronger than DB2... >> >> >> >> >>> >>>His attitude signals that he wants to crush this thing badly, doesn't seem fixed >>>at all, in fact it open war. >>> >>>If Garry is that good an actor then someone needs to give the man an Oscar, he >>>sure has me fooled. >> >> >>He's a macho from the South. Always very dramatic. But surely in his >>selfperception very honest. >> >> >> >>> >>>It is not that I haven't thought about it, boxers do it all the time in the >>>press conferences, but I believe Garry is for real here. >> >>He's now in that same trap he was in in 1997. He wants to be a heroe, he is an >>actor, but apparently that costs him part of his ability to judge things. In >>Prague for instance, where he played just for fun only to then make a political >>coup with FIDE he was much more himself. But if he had to play for winning in >>Prague, he would perhaps had created his own FIDE again. Don't expect me to give >>a fair judgement, I'm not a clair voyant. I just count one and two together. >>:) >> >> >> >>> >>>Consider that he lost to DB and have waited 6 years for resurrection, he is not >>>going to blow this if he can do anything about it. His name in the history books >>>is at stake here, his gigantic ego simply won't allow him to throw a match like >>>this one, even for 1 mill. >> >>I doubt that he has room for such thoughts. Eternity is already assured. That >>doesn't depend on the actual show. But I fear Garry is misinterpreting the >>importance of these hundreds of thousands of dollars. Let's speak it out. >>Compared to his real importance such a sum is a joke. Hollywood actors get 20 >>million dollars. Tiger Woods gets Garry's sum every three days. Nobody really >>cares what Kasparov does in that 28th floor in that Athletic club. Freaky at >>best. That is the sad truth about chess in the USA. So Garry is happy that he >>can write on the internet for millions of chess playing experts in Russia! But >>USA is just the site with the money source. Sad but true. Semi-famous people are >>engaged to attend the event and they do it like another talk show gig. It's so >>sad. >> >>Rolf Tueschen >> >> >>> >>>-S allan, can you see me? ok, this is a club where it>'s not allowed to behave in lewd manner and hide one's own messages like an Easter egg [German tradition]. Please try to be a bit more impostering and loud. At first I was a bit timid too. :) Rolf Tueschen
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