Author: Uri Blass
Date: 00:26:03 02/04/03
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On February 03, 2003 at 22:41:47, Mark Young wrote: >On February 03, 2003 at 13:58:07, Robert Hyatt wrote: > >>On February 03, 2003 at 11:28:43, J Mike wrote: >> >>>On February 03, 2003 at 10:26:41, Robert Hyatt wrote: >>> >>> >>>>>All four games the computer played badly and got bad positions .. then defended >>>>>bad positions well. >>>> >>>> >>>>I guess we will have to agree to disagree. I think that for any move by white >>>>you care to criticize (a3, h3) you can back up one or two moves and find two >>>>by black that deserve criticism... >>>> >>>>White had _all_ the winning chances in this game, black was looking at a draw >>>>at best for almost the entire game. >>> >>>This is completely incorrect. White played the position real badly (not just >>>according to me but according to GMs like Fedorowich and others) .. Black (not >>>white) had real chances of winning if he played more agressively with b5 or >>>maybe d5 >> >> >>I'm not sure what _they_ were seeing. But the GM/IM commentary on ICC favored >>white for almost all of the game. particularly after the passed b-pawn was >>created... Black >>wasn't _ever_ going to win that position. > > >GM Fedorowich had to back track some of his comments and did, saying the >computer was playing the position badly. Not the first time in this match the >computers have proven the GM's wrong. > >I think humans have a way of playing, but the computers are now showing there is >more then one way to play these kinds of positions. DJ showed space and mobility >can counter a looser pawn structure in its own setup and white can gain an >advantage. Not the way a strong GM would play this, but the computer showed it >can work. I have for a long time the opinion that mobility is more important than pawn structure. Public Movei versions know nothing about pawn structure except a panelty for 2 pawns on the same file. Part of the significant improvement from Movei0.07a to 0.07.99 was increasing my mobility scores. The question is if GM's will learn to play better from buying Junior8 and looking at it's evaluations. Uri
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