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Subject: Re: Monday morning quarterbacks and second guessers

Author: James T. Walker

Date: 04:00:44 02/04/03

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On February 04, 2003 at 01:26:09, Drexel,Michael wrote:

>On February 04, 2003 at 00:18:03, James T. Walker wrote:
>
>>I find it highly amusing that mere mortals are sitting around second guessing
>>the greatest chess player who has lived to date.  Most would not even dare open
>>their mouths if they didn't have a computer to back them up or at least confirm
>>that their ideas are not full blown blunders.  Computers are making people more
>>brave in their second guessing of Gary Kasparov and Deep Junior.  Some people
>>seem astounded that the human has made mistakes.  Then others blast the stupid
>>computer for making mistakes!  Can someone please show me a chess game where the
>>winning side played perfectly and the loser did not make any mistakes?  I'm
>>waiting.
>>Jim
>
>Good morning Jim, yes :)
>
>[Event "Linares"]
>[Site "Linares"]
>[Date "1991.??.??"]
>[Round "1"]
>[White "Ivanchuk, Vassily"]
>[Black "Kasparov, Gary"]
>[Result "1-0"]
>[ECO "B51"]
>[WhiteElo "2695"]
>[BlackElo "2800"]
>[PlyCount "75"]
>[EventDate "1991.02.??"]
>[Source ""]
>
>1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. Bb5+ Nd7 4. d4 Ngf6 5. O-O cxd4 6. Qxd4 a6 7. Bxd7+ Bxd7
>8. Bg5 h6 9. Bxf6 gxf6 10. c4 e6 11. Nc3 Rc8 12. Kh1 h5 13. a4 h4 14. h3 Be7
>15. b4 a5 16. b5 Qc7 17. Nd2 Qc5 18. Qd3 Rg8 19. Rae1 Qg5 20. Rg1 Qf4 21. Ref1
>b6 22. Ne2 Qh6 23. c5 Rxc5 24. Nc4 Kf8 25. Nxb6 Be8 26. f4 f5 27. exf5 Rxf5 28.
>Rc1 Kg7 29. g4 Rc5 30. Rxc5 dxc5 31. Nc8 Bf8 32. Qd8 Qg6 33. f5 Qh6 34. g5 Qh5
>35. Rg4 exf5 36. Nf4 Qh8 37. Qf6+ Kh7 38. Rxh4+ 1-0
>
>[D] 2N1bbrq/5p1k/5Q2/pPp2pP1/P4N1R/7P/8/7K b - - 0 38
>
>                      :-)
>
>when I criticize German soccer team because they have lost against the bloody
>English or Dutch basta... , do you think I believe I could do better?
>you should follow the chat during Live events on ICC more often. that hardens

I think I remember this game.  When it hit the chess magazines everyone was
saying they couldn't find where black went wrong.  Of course they were mere
humans and that was before Fritz 8/Deep Junior etc.  Fritz 8 gives 28....Kg7 ?
as a mistake.  Fritz 8 score spikes to over 3 points after this move.  Maybe
some GM's should go over this one again?
Jim



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