Author: Rolf Tueschen
Date: 09:27:54 02/05/03
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On February 05, 2003 at 12:04:13, Jorge Pichard wrote: >Deep Junior revealed that the dividing line between tactical and strategic >thinking may not be a line after all, but a gray area. Kasparov knew and learned >from Deeper Blue back in 1997, and even today top programs are very strong and >can NOT be challenge tactically. I still don't understand why Kasparov is trying >to beat Deep Junior tactically, he needs to avoid situations in which the >combinational style of play would be the dominant factor. Why? Because in game >of brute calculation, the program (Deep Junior) would be more than a match for >him. If Kasparov saw 8 moves, DJ would see 16, if he saw 22, DJ saw 24, and so >on. What Kasparov needs to do today is play a more rambunctious, cut-and-thrust >style of patient maneuvering. Kasparov did learned from past experience by >playing Deeper Blue, that playing anti-computer is not >the best way to beat DJ, and by watching Kramnik vs Deep Fritz games too. What >it comes down to is how much programmers have learned about strategic thinking, >not merely how slow DJ is in comparison to Deeper Blue. We saw in game three >that Kasparov Opening gave him an edge but the middlegame was reached in which >Kasparov advantage soon disapeared; in short he had outplayed the program with >most openings. But it was a pyrrhic victory: It had cost him too much to get to >that point, for Deep Junior had defended doggedly and Kasparov was exhausted and >could not even find the drawing line in a losing position under time pressure. >Kasparov certainly revealed the weakenesses to which human players are sometimes >subject to such as: lapses of concentration, miscalculations, frustration, >oversights, exhaustion, and mainly getting into time trouble, which lead into >poor sportsmanship. > >Pichard I agree with you, if we take the metapher of the gray cataract DJ is certainly in a very gray region when brutal force comes to an end. But to insinuate that Kasparov is weaker than DJ is nonsense. Kasparov plays left-handed deeper into brute force line than poor DJ! You talk about 14 MOVES brute force, LOL? Dream on! :) Rolf Tueschen
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