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Subject: Re: The dividing line between tactical and trategical play is a gray area.

Author: Rolf Tueschen

Date: 09:27:54 02/05/03

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On February 05, 2003 at 12:04:13, Jorge Pichard wrote:

>Deep Junior revealed that the dividing line between tactical and strategic
>thinking may not be a line after all, but a gray area. Kasparov knew and learned
>from Deeper Blue back in 1997, and even today top programs are very strong and
>can NOT be challenge tactically. I still don't understand why Kasparov is trying
>to beat Deep Junior tactically, he needs to avoid situations in which the
>combinational style of play would be the dominant factor. Why? Because in game
>of brute calculation, the program (Deep Junior) would be more than a match for
>him. If Kasparov saw 8 moves, DJ would see 16, if he saw 22, DJ saw 24, and so
>on. What Kasparov needs to do today is play a more rambunctious, cut-and-thrust
>style of patient maneuvering. Kasparov did learned from past experience by
>playing Deeper Blue, that playing anti-computer is not
>the best way to beat DJ, and by watching Kramnik vs Deep Fritz games too. What
>it comes down to is how much programmers have learned about strategic thinking,
>not merely how slow DJ is in comparison to Deeper Blue. We saw in game three
>that Kasparov Opening gave him an edge but the middlegame was reached in which
>Kasparov advantage soon disapeared; in short he had outplayed the program with
>most openings. But it was a pyrrhic victory: It had cost him too much to get to
>that point, for Deep Junior had defended doggedly and Kasparov was exhausted and
>could not even find the drawing line in a losing position under time pressure.
>Kasparov certainly revealed the weakenesses to which human players are sometimes
>subject to such as: lapses of concentration, miscalculations, frustration,
>oversights, exhaustion, and mainly getting into time trouble, which lead into
>poor sportsmanship.
>
>Pichard


I agree with you, if we take the metapher of the gray cataract DJ is certainly
in a very gray region when brutal force comes to an end. But to insinuate that
Kasparov is weaker than DJ is nonsense. Kasparov plays left-handed deeper into
brute force line than poor DJ! You talk about 14 MOVES brute force, LOL?
Dream on!

:)

Rolf Tueschen



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