Author: Jorge Pichard
Date: 09:51:26 02/05/03
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On February 05, 2003 at 12:27:54, Rolf Tueschen wrote: >On February 05, 2003 at 12:04:13, Jorge Pichard wrote: > >>Deep Junior revealed that the dividing line between tactical and strategic >>thinking may not be a line after all, but a gray area. Kasparov knew and learned >>from Deeper Blue back in 1997, and even today top programs are very strong and >>can NOT be challenge tactically. I still don't understand why Kasparov is trying >>to beat Deep Junior tactically, he needs to avoid situations in which the >>combinational style of play would be the dominant factor. Why? Because in game >>of brute calculation, the program (Deep Junior) would be more than a match for >>him. If Kasparov saw 8 moves, DJ would see 16, if he saw 22, DJ saw 24, and so >>on. What Kasparov needs to do today is play a more rambunctious, cut-and-thrust >>style of patient maneuvering. Kasparov did learned from past experience by >>playing Deeper Blue, that playing anti-computer is not >>the best way to beat DJ, and by watching Kramnik vs Deep Fritz games too. What >>it comes down to is how much programmers have learned about strategic thinking, >>not merely how slow DJ is in comparison to Deeper Blue. We saw in game three >>that Kasparov Opening gave him an edge but the middlegame was reached in which >>Kasparov advantage soon disapeared; in short he had outplayed the program with >>most openings. But it was a pyrrhic victory: It had cost him too much to get to >>that point, for Deep Junior had defended doggedly and Kasparov was exhausted and >>could not even find the drawing line in a losing position under time pressure. >>Kasparov certainly revealed the weakenesses to which human players are sometimes >>subject to such as: lapses of concentration, miscalculations, frustration, >>oversights, exhaustion, and mainly getting into time trouble, which lead into >>poor sportsmanship. >> >>Pichard > > >I agree with you, if we take the metapher of the gray cataract DJ is certainly >in a very gray region when brutal force comes to an end. But to insinuate that >Kasparov is weaker than DJ is nonsense. Kasparov plays left-handed deeper into >brute force line than poor DJ! You talk about 14 MOVES brute force, LOL? >Dream on! > >:) > >Rolf Tueschen This 14 MOVES was used only for comparison reason, don't quote me on this. That fact is that Kasparov is no match tactically for DJ in an open position. Pichard
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