Author: Dann Corbit
Date: 11:12:53 02/05/03
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On February 05, 2003 at 05:34:56, Uri Blass wrote: >On February 05, 2003 at 04:40:48, Tom Kerrigan wrote: > >>On February 05, 2003 at 02:22:22, Uri Blass wrote: >> >>>I do not think that it is stronger than what most people think. TSCP is often cited as a very weak chess engine. I think people assume that it is weak because it it tiny. >>All of your data indicates that TSCP is weak but says nothing to Dann's point. >>(The key phrase being "what most people think.") >> >>Many (if not most) people assume TSCP is extremely weak because it's a 2000-line >>tutorial with few features and glaring deficiencies. >> >>I wouldn't say it's extremely weak; it beats many people on chess servers and >>many programs in private WinBoard tournaments. >> >>-Tom > >I agree that there are a lot of engines that are clearly weaker than tscp >but it is still weaker than most winboard engines. It is below the 50% mark. But for its size, it is surprizingly strong. Thinker is another surprisingly strong program for its size, as is movei. >I do not think that people consider it as extremely weak and I read post in the >winboard forum that suggest the opposite > >see http://f11.parsimony.net/forum16635/messages/40886.htm > >In rating lists of people I can see the following data > >place 107 out of 162 engines in 30 minutes/game >http://www.geocities.com/lyapko/rat30.htm >place 118 out of 176 engines in 5 minute/40 moves >http://www.geocities.com/lyapko/lgwbg.htm > >place 150 out of 222 versions of free winboard chess engines in 5 3 time >control. >http://www.digichess.gr/infiniteloop/ratings/blitz_rating_2.txt >place 177 out of 221 versions of free winboard chess engines in 15 3 time >control. >http://www.digichess.gr/infiniteloop/ratings/rapid_rating_il2r.txt People who are aware of the data do not consider it extremely weak. Many (some) are not aware of the data.
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