Author: Chessfun
Date: 12:04:52 02/05/03
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On February 05, 2003 at 14:36:01, Drexel,Michael wrote: >On February 05, 2003 at 14:21:11, Harald Faber wrote: > >>On February 05, 2003 at 10:09:03, Drexel,Michael wrote: >> >>>On February 05, 2003 at 09:32:50, Harald Faber wrote: >>> >>>>It seems to me that this result - and certainly some further results - should >>>>calm many people claiming that Shredder 7 is the strongest program or stronger >>>>than DeepFritz7+Fritz8. But they will never learn that SSDF testing on 2 PCs >>>>with pb-on and tournament time control is somewhat different than betatesting on >>>>one machine with g/60 or even less. >>>>So I admit that I feel confirmation for my sceptical attitude towards >>>>sensational results and reports which arise here frequently about several >>>>programs. :-) >>>> >>>>Harald >>>>(Who cannot remember having seen miracles like new program/version topping the >>>>list with 50pts or more over the former leader) >>> >>>SSDF is testing with slow Athlon 1200 computers. Shredder is known as a slow >>>searcher and he is still relative slow. Shredder 7 lacks tactical ability. >>>Shredder 7 should do much better on fast machines. >> >> >>This is a very old tale I cannot hear anymore. It has never been proven right >>and is always used as an excuse when some engine does not perform as some fans >>hope/expect. >>BTW, what is a "fast" machine for you? P4-2.5GHz? Do you know how much such a >>P-4 is faster than the A-1200? I tell you it is not as much as it might suggest >>if you only look at the numbers. It is even less than the advantage points for >>faster hardware could compensate the 14-22. >> > >I dont think im a Shredder fan. I have Shredder 7, Fritz 7,8 and a lot of old >commercial chess programms plus some old chess computers. > >No, a P4 2.5 GHz is not a fast machine for CC. A dual MP 1900+ or 2000+ is. >of course Deep Fritz 7 would be stronger too, but I think it is more >important for Shredder 7 to play on a very fast machine. >btw, as you know 14-22 doesnt mean much. 40 games per match (SSDF) is IMO not >enough because chance (be lucky) plays an important role in CC. Sandro made no mention of needing a faster CPU than a A1200 when he posted here that Shredder 7 will be 50 points (I think it was) stronger than Shredder 6. And further that it will top the SSDF. Sarah. > > > > >> >>>I dont think you can really say which program is the strongest today. >>>It's very close. >> >> >>This is indeed absolutely correct.
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