Author: Chessfun
Date: 12:48:56 02/05/03
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On February 05, 2003 at 15:41:55, Andrew Williams wrote: >On February 05, 2003 at 15:19:46, Chessfun wrote: > >>On February 05, 2003 at 15:16:48, Andrew Williams wrote: >> >>>On February 05, 2003 at 14:45:55, Ulrich Tuerke wrote: >>> >>>>On February 05, 2003 at 11:47:49, Steffen Jakob wrote: >>>> >>>>>On February 05, 2003 at 02:08:02, Daniel Mehrmannn wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>Whats new: >>>>> >>>>>>* New analyze function: You can now analyze observe games on a InternetServer >>>>>> and put output to channels, games and people. >>>>>> (See option->ICS settings) >>>>> >>>>>Others have done something similar too, but didn't make it public because it >>>>>would be a powerful tool for cheating at internet chess servers. >>>> >>>>Steffen, I guess, you are talking about use of computer in a non-computer >>>>account. >>>>I'm afraid, I can't follow: why is kibitzing a "powerful tool for cheating" ? >>>> >>>>Uli >>>> >>> >>>As I understand it, this feature would allow an unscrupulous ICC member to do >>>this: >>> >>>1. Log in using Blitzin using their normal handle >>>2. Log in as a guest using Winboard with an attached program running >>>3. Issue a "follow <my_handle>" command from the guest account >>>4. Set the program attached to Winboard to analyze mode >>> >>>The program will "see" all the moves from the member's game and will output its >>>analysis locally. An unscrupulous player could use the moves from the program >>>instead of playing himself. >>> >>>This is similar to the functionality that Bob uses to allow crafty to write its >>>analysis to ch211 during live transmission of big games on ICC. The difference >>>is that Bob has not made his code generally available, because of the >>>opportunity it offers to cheats. >>> >>>Andrew >> >>But you could do any of that now with Fritz or Tiger log in normally and have >>another piece of software running, I don't see the difference. >> >>Sarah. > > >I don't have those programs. Are you saying that Fritz and Tiger can "watch" >your game over your shoulder, without being logged in as themselves? If you mean >that you could manually transfer the moves, I believe that is less of a problem. >Anyhow, Daniel has said that this feature will not be available to everyone >anyway, so it's a moot point to some extent. > >Andrew You can log in as a guest using Tiger and watch the game with Tiger in analysis mode and if your logged on as a player and want to cheat then you can. Same as far as I know with any program. Actually manually moving should make more sense to a cheat as it would be harder on time per move, recaptures etc to track the cheat. Sarah. Sarah.
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