Author: Vincent Diepeveen
Date: 23:16:52 02/05/03
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On February 06, 2003 at 01:54:19, Vincent Diepeveen wrote: >On February 06, 2003 at 01:30:13, J Mike wrote: > >> >>I made the moves 16. g3 Qh2 17. f5 h5 and played Crafty vs Crafty (time control >>40 moves in 40 minutes) correction 16..Nh2 is way better. 17. Kf2,Ng4+ Now white must chose. I bet your beancounter is gonna play Kg2 there. If so then let's discuss that line later. Let's first play 18.Ke1 now black plays Qh2,Nd1 (forced kind of) and now black can quietly move a pawn on the king side (h5) and put up the pressure to white. You sure that *any* titled player on the planet likes to play white there? I'll give you the judgement: "NO". White is sitting duck here for a long lasting game. Somewhere you make mistake and 0-1. Doesn't take away that 18.Ke1 is best move probably. Sitting duck sometimes is better than losing. Ok let's follow a beancounter which wants to win badly. So back to the other line. 18.Kg2,Qh2+ 19.Kf3. While DIEP is analyzing here my score already drops to 0.00 nearly. A short look at the position: white cannot move his f1 rook because of a qf2 mate. so white can only free itself by e4 one day. black on the other hand can enter all pieces which is of course 20 ply to see for programs. Not a very happy position either. Of course kasparov is never going to take this. A draw is much easier. I do not find Bxh2 best move at all. Playing other move gives black advantage and would have won the game later. Now Bxh2 is giving a draw simply. Beancounter-beancounter i would not be surprised if either black wins or white wins. Happens. they play without a plan. if you play however with a plan here then black plays like a royal king so taking the draw was a good thing from kasparov directly saying in fact: "black doesn't have enough for the bxh2". The alternative is a slow win from black. >>the final position after move 67 is probably a draw. >Move 4.e3 i would argue. > >>Even if the sacrifice was unsafe (as it probably was), I don't think it would >>have been easy for Kasparov to win the game if he had played 16. g3 .. he could > >g3 is a silly attempt. Take the draw. much easier. g3 will never win for white >of course. this is trivial to see for even a FM. What the hell did you guys do >at icc? > >>have even lost it, given he had less than an hour on the clock and it was only >>move 16. >> >>Everyone was shocked on ICC that Kasparov didn't try to win with g3, but now I > >that's of course people just watching the beancounters at their programs. >g3 ain't gonna win at all for white. instead you have a long game where black >wins in the end. the analysis i saw so far get already wiped away by a 12 ply >search of DIEP here. > >>think he probably made the right decision! This position is not as easy as it >>looked earlier. > >kasparov begged for a draw with his setup. if he had just 5 braincells that >wanted to win from junior he would know that this openingsline is a bad choice >because it gives black greatly the opportunity to attack at the king side. Now >we all know from world champs where junior joins that the program is always >attacking the king side of the opponent. Good or bad. > >So kasparov in advance was playing for a draw. 1.d4 and 5.e3 what a joke again. >this guy ain't playing serious against junior. kasparov became world champion >with 1.e4 and black najdorf after 1.e4. > >Now he plays openings where he is no better than any other 2550+ GM (fide >rating). Combined with some commercial interests into kasparovchess.com (what's >in a name?) and the junior team also linked to kasparovchess. Also in the sure >knowing that next year he'll get another match against a computer and if that >ain't junior he'll try go beat it. > >What do i need to say more. > >he isn't 2800+ in those lines. knowing his considerations and his mentality >struggle he'll be more like 2450 there. > >>I think we can say DJ's Bxh2 was an amazing move. It was a real sacrifice for >>initiative. I don't think any other computer (or even older version of DJ) >>would have played it .. >> >> >>------------------------ >> >>1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 e6 3. Nc3 Bb4 4. e3 O-O 5. Bd3 d5 6. cxd5 exd5 7. Nge2 Re8 8. >>O-O Bd6 9. a3 c6 10. Qc2 Bxh2+ 11. Kxh2 Ng4+ 12. Kg3 Qg5 13. f4 Qh5 14. Bd2 >>Qh2+ 15. Kf3 Qh4 16. g3 Qh2 17. f5 h5 18. b4 Nd7 19. e4 Qh3 20. Rh1 Nh2+ 21. >>Rxh2 Qxh2 22. exd5 Nf6 23. Qd1 Qh3 24. Nf4 Qh2 25. Nfe2 Qh3 26. Nf4 Qh2 27. >>dxc6 Ng4 28. Ng2 Qh3 29. Be2 bxc6 30. Qh1 Nh2+ 31. Kf2 Bxf5 32. Nf4 Ng4+ 33. >>Bxg4 Qxh1 34. Rxh1 hxg4 35. d5 Rac8 36. Rh5 g6 37. Rh1 f6 38. Be3 g5 39. Nfe2 >>cxd5 40. Bxa7 Be4 41. Nxe4 Rxe4 42. Bc5 Rc4 43. a4 Rc2 44. a5 Ra2 45. Re1 Kf7 >>46. Kf1 Rh8 47. Nc3 Rh1+ 48. Bg1 Ra3 49. Ne2 Ra4 50. Rb1 Rh8 51. Nc3 Ra3 52. >>Nxd5 Rh3 53. b5 Rxa5 54. Kg2 f5 55. Bf2 f4 56. Nc3 f3+ 57. Kg1 Ra8 58. b6 Rah8 >>59. Kf1 Rh1+ 60. Bg1 R8h2 61. b7 Rg2 62. Ne2 Rh8 63. Bd4 Rhh2 64. Ng1 f2 65. >>Ne2 Rh1+ 66. Kxg2 Rxb1 67. Kxf2 Kg6 (result?)
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