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Subject: Re: some analysis by Movei after g3 Nh2+ Kf2 Ng4+

Author: Drexel,Michael

Date: 04:49:09 02/06/03

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On February 06, 2003 at 07:34:27, Drexel,Michael wrote:

>On February 06, 2003 at 06:49:48, Rolf Tueschen wrote:
>
>>On February 06, 2003 at 05:36:53, Drexel,Michael wrote:
>>
>>>On February 06, 2003 at 05:22:44, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
>>>
>>>>On February 06, 2003 at 04:19:11, Uri Blass wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Movei always like Ke1
>>>>>
>>>>>Here is the main line at depth 16(p850)
>>>>>
>>>>>depth=16 +1.77 f2e1 h4h3 c3d1 g4h2 d3h7 g8h8 f1f2 h3h5 h7d3 h2f3 f2f3 h5f3
>>>d1f2
>>>>>b8d7 a1c1 d7f6 c2b3 h8g8 b3b4
>>>>
>>>>that mainline sucks it just shuffles pieces with black instead of developing.
>>>>
>>>>h4h3?? what a stupid move. why not Qh2 and then h5 nbd7 and develop with black.
>>>>white cannot do a thing.
>>>
>>>
>>>Take a quick look at:
>>>http://www.worldchessrating.com/522252335.html?805921192746609
>>>GM Shipov is K buddy but not stupid.
>>
>>Shipov gives 19 Nd1 after g3 in his analysis. I gave this Nd1 on the
>>Fritzserveri Mendi's game show. What makes me nervous is this: ifplayers of my
>>"class" can see such moves/ideas, Kasparov has a much better qualification. To
>>assume that such a situation might be too difficult against a machine (what
>>Shipov is telling) is crazy. Just take a look at the almost super-human
>>complications in some of Kasparov's games! If not Kasparov, who else could show
>>us how a human could crush a comp. Isn't he paid enough high??? That is why I am
>>so upset. The performance is simply disgusting compared to that money he got.
>>Period.
>>
>>Rolf Tueschen
>>
>
>You are probably right here. According to Mig Kasparov worried about
>16...Qh2. After 16...Qh2 17.Rae1 there seems to be nothing to worry about. I
>havent analysed this position as deep as I should but a chessfriend of mine told
>me that DJ7 gives half a pawn advantage for white and would play 17...g6. Im
>pretty sure that white is able to defend after g6 and can convert his material
>advantage.
>17.Bxh7+ is also possible and slightly better for white.
>No reason to make a draw.
>Dont forget: Others get much more money they didnt deserve.

note that 17.Rae1 Nxe3 18.Bxe3 Bg4+ 19.Kxg4 Rxe3 can be answered with 20.Bxh7+.
if not 17...Nxe3 white can play Nd1 next.

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>>>>
>>>>it just shuffles. another few ply won't help you here.
>>>>>>>>Time: 01:24:53.90
>>>>>Nodes: 668139400 NPS: 131164
>
>>>>>
>>>>>I will give it some hours to analyze.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Uri



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