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Subject: Re: There Is A 1/5 Chance That DJ 2003 Is As Good As DB '97. Amir Was Wrong!

Author: Peter Fendrich

Date: 06:01:45 02/06/03

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On February 06, 2003 at 04:59:26, Graham Laight wrote:

>I have to admit, I tended towards the neutral in terms of how good PCs were
>against DB. I had a feeling that Bob might be correct - but the PC apologists,
>led by Amir, put what looked like a an overwhelming amount of evidence into the
>debate.
>
>Now, the truth is on the table for all to see.
>
>For all those years, Amir was arguing that DB was no better than PCs, and Bob
>Hyatt argued the reverse position.
>
>Of the 5 games played so far, DJ has won one. Therefore, there is a 1 in 5
>chance that DJ will win tomorrow. If DJ does win, it will merely achieve the
>same result that DB achieved 6 years ago. There is a 4 in 5 probability that it
>won't - and that after 6 years of catching up time, DJ will actually achieve a
>WORSE result than DB achieved.
>
>Remember - if IBM had continued to develop DB, then, under Moore's law, it would
>be doing a continuous 2 billion nodes per second today (peaking at close to 10
>billion nodes per second).
>
>The argument is now closed. Amir has been proven wrong.
>
>I hope Amir is going to do the gentlemanly thing and apologise for all the years
>he has been misleading us in an insistant and indignant manner.
>
>-g

Nothing of the sort have been proven.
  - The conditions are completely different. Kasparov had the opportunity to
    prepare against Junior. In general he also should be stronger against
    computers by now.
  - Your math 1 in 5, 4 in 5 and sofort is wrong (as Uri showed)
What we seen sofar is that Junior can compete at the same level as DB but which
one is the better can't be concluded by this match.
The match Fritz-Kramnik gave us the same kind of vague information with the hint
that todays PC engines are in parity with DB. More precise conclusions from
these two games are just speculations.

/Peter





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