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Subject: Re: There Is A 1/5 Chance That DJ 2003 Is As Good As DB '97. Amir Was Wrong!

Author: Drexel,Michael

Date: 09:14:47 02/06/03

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On February 06, 2003 at 12:01:35, Uri Blass wrote:

>On February 06, 2003 at 11:54:10, Drexel,Michael wrote:
>
>>On February 06, 2003 at 11:27:48, Uri Blass wrote:
>>
>>>On February 06, 2003 at 11:22:28, Graham Laight wrote:
>>>
>>>>On February 06, 2003 at 10:51:43, Uri Blass wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On February 06, 2003 at 10:45:20, Graham Laight wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On February 06, 2003 at 10:27:36, Uri Blass wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I believe that Amir did not say that PCs of 1997 were as strong as DB.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Uri
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Have you not seen the large number of posts from him INSISTING that DB was
>>>>>>over-rated, and either implying or stating outright that PCs could have done as
>>>>>>well, if not better?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>n.b. may need to go back a couple of years to find these threads against Robert
>>>>>>Hyatt.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>-g
>>>>>
>>>>>We are talking about computers of the beginning of 1997 with hardware of 1997.
>>>>>
>>>>>I believe that he talked about it near 2000 when hardware and software were
>>>>>clearly better.
>>>>>
>>>>>Uri
>>>>
>>>>Not that much better - DJ will not achieve a better result than DB, and will
>>>>probably achieve a worse one.
>>>>
>>>>-g
>>>
>>>Comparing is not done based only on results.
>>>Deeper blue never played impressive moves that programs of 2000 cannot find.
>>>
>>>There are logfiles of the games and I know of nothing impressive in them.
>>>
>>>Uri
>>
>>Im still very impressed by this position and DB correct decision not to play
>>Qb6. I can imagine that this position has been discussed widely before, but
>>you say DB never played impressive moves todays programs cant find.
>>
>>[D] r1r1q1k1/6p1/p2b1p1p/1p1PpP2/PPp5/2P4P/R1B2QP1/R5K1 w - - 0 36
>>
>>Do you know of any program who would not play 36.Qb6?
>>All my programs would play it.
>>Can someone please check what move DJ7 would play in this position?
>>
>>Michael
>
>I think that Qb6 is not better than axb5.
>I think that both moves are leading to equal position.
>
>Kasparov simply did not find the right defence against Qb6.
>
>Uri

what do you mean? DB played 36.axb5 and Kasparov cant find the right defence
after 44.Kf1.
why leads 36.axb5 to an equal position?
Is 44.Kh1 not a winning move?



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