Author: Uri Blass
Date: 09:20:12 02/06/03
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On February 06, 2003 at 12:14:47, Drexel,Michael wrote: >On February 06, 2003 at 12:01:35, Uri Blass wrote: > >>On February 06, 2003 at 11:54:10, Drexel,Michael wrote: >> >>>On February 06, 2003 at 11:27:48, Uri Blass wrote: >>> >>>>On February 06, 2003 at 11:22:28, Graham Laight wrote: >>>> >>>>>On February 06, 2003 at 10:51:43, Uri Blass wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On February 06, 2003 at 10:45:20, Graham Laight wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>On February 06, 2003 at 10:27:36, Uri Blass wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>I believe that Amir did not say that PCs of 1997 were as strong as DB. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Uri >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Have you not seen the large number of posts from him INSISTING that DB was >>>>>>>over-rated, and either implying or stating outright that PCs could have done as >>>>>>>well, if not better? >>>>>>> >>>>>>>n.b. may need to go back a couple of years to find these threads against Robert >>>>>>>Hyatt. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>-g >>>>>> >>>>>>We are talking about computers of the beginning of 1997 with hardware of 1997. >>>>>> >>>>>>I believe that he talked about it near 2000 when hardware and software were >>>>>>clearly better. >>>>>> >>>>>>Uri >>>>> >>>>>Not that much better - DJ will not achieve a better result than DB, and will >>>>>probably achieve a worse one. >>>>> >>>>>-g >>>> >>>>Comparing is not done based only on results. >>>>Deeper blue never played impressive moves that programs of 2000 cannot find. >>>> >>>>There are logfiles of the games and I know of nothing impressive in them. >>>> >>>>Uri >>> >>>Im still very impressed by this position and DB correct decision not to play >>>Qb6. I can imagine that this position has been discussed widely before, but >>>you say DB never played impressive moves todays programs cant find. >>> >>>[D] r1r1q1k1/6p1/p2b1p1p/1p1PpP2/PPp5/2P4P/R1B2QP1/R5K1 w - - 0 36 >>> >>>Do you know of any program who would not play 36.Qb6? >>>All my programs would play it. >>>Can someone please check what move DJ7 would play in this position? >>> >>>Michael >> >>I think that Qb6 is not better than axb5. >>I think that both moves are leading to equal position. >> >>Kasparov simply did not find the right defence against Qb6. >> >>Uri > >what do you mean? DB played 36.axb5 and Kasparov cant find the right defence >after 44.Kf1. >why leads 36.axb5 to an equal position? >Is 44.Kh1 not a winning move? 44.Kh1 is a winning move but black had a lot of alternatives in the previous moves and did a losing blunder after move 36. I remember that I analyzed it and could not find a forced win for white and even could not find a clear advantage for white after axb5. Uri Uri
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