Author: Louis Fagliano
Date: 13:03:30 02/06/03
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On February 06, 2003 at 11:53:21, Robert Hyatt wrote: >On February 06, 2003 at 05:42:29, Michael Vox wrote: > >> >>Still the question remains unanswered is DJ - GM or Super GM ?? >> >>It seems based on the F7 vs Kramnik and now DJ, that the SuperGMs are about even >>with the bots... Just one man's opinion! > > >I have said for a couple of years now that the comps are probably in the low-GM >range for playing skill. That hasn't changed a lot in my opinion. > >I would assess things as follows, after having watched the DB vs Kasp match, >then DF vs Kramnik, Hiarcs vs Bareev, DJ vs Kasparov, etc. > >In a single game, Kasparov is probably 200 rating points _better_ than any >computer >currently playing chess. For example, can you think of a _single_ 2500 player >that >would have played the _first_ game from the DJ side? I can't. > >In a match, this changes. It would seem that the fatigue factor rates far >higher than I >would have imagined, bringing the humans _down_ a couple of hundred rating >points, >rather than the computers being that much stronger. Why this is, I don't really >understand. >I have, on occasion, played a serious game (or two) every day for two weeks, >tuning Cray >Blitz for a major event. Granted, there was not any money at stake, but you can >bet I was >not interested in "rolling over" as I had a high level of motivation to repeat >as WCCC in >1986 for example. > >It is going to take some thought to understand what must be called the "fatigue >factor". >But it is obviously there. 15 years ago we referred to the "computer shock >factor" where >players met a machine for the first time and didn't know what to expect. They >would >often fall into a pit and lose, then come back and win much easier the second >time around. >Now we have a completely different "issue"... If humans get fatigued quickly in a human-comp match then the only way to bear that out would be to enter a computer as the only computer entry in an otherwise all-human GM tournament. Each human GM would face the computer only once and would not get weary of having to face a machine in game after game where one slight tactical slip is instantly and unerring punished. If only Deep Fritz or Deep Junior could play in Linares later this month. Sigh...
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