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Subject: Re: endgame position - null move problem

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 19:25:18 02/06/03

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On February 06, 2003 at 16:57:29, Jon Dart wrote:

>Here's a position that occurred in a recent offline test game:
>
>{D] 8/6r1/p7/1p6/3kBn1P/P2p1P2/1P6/3R1K2 b - -
>
>Ke3 is winning here, but Arasan 6.3 doesn't get this, in fact it wants to play
>Rg8. It is apparently a null move issue. If I turn off null moves, or restrict
>the null move in the case where the opponent has an advanced passer, then it is
>solved quickly.
>
>--Jon


It takes my PIII/750 laptop 23 seconds to find Ke3:

                                    Ne2 5. Kg2 Rxh6 6. Bf5 Rh5 7. Be4
               12    12.89  -1.96   1. ... Rg3 2. a4 bxa4 3. h5 Rh3 4.
                                    Kf2 Rxh5 5. Ra1 a3 6. bxa3 Nh3+ 7.
                                    Ke1 Ke3
               12    23.57     ++   1. ... Ke3!!
               12    35.34  -3.28   1. ... Ke3 2. h5 d2 3. h6 Rg3 4. Rxd2
                                    Kxd2 5. Kf2 Rg2+ 6. Kf1 Rh2 7. h7 Ne2
                                    8. b4 <HT>
               12->  35.48  -3.28   1. ... Ke3 2. h5 d2 3. h6 Rg3 4. Rxd2
                                    Kxd2 5. Kf2 Rg2+ 6. Kf1 Rh2 7. h7 Ne2
                                    8. b4 <HT>
               13    44.73     ++   1. ... Ke3!!
               13     1:20  -4.77   1. ... Ke3 2. Bxd3 Nxd3 3. b3 Rg3 4.
                                    a4 Rxf3+ 5. Kg2 bxa4 6. bxa4 Nf4+ 7.
                                    Kg1 Rg3+ 8. Kf1 Rh3 9. Re1+ Kd2 10.
                                    Kf2 Rxh4
               13->   1:23  -4.77   1. ... Ke3 2. Bxd3 Nxd3 3. b3 Rg3 4.
                                    a4 Rxf3+ 5. Kg2 bxa4 6. bxa4 Nf4+ 7.
                                    Kg1 Rg3+ 8. Kf1 Rh3 9. Re1+ Kd2 10.
                                    Kf2 Rxh4



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