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Subject: Re: DJ - GM or Super GM ??

Author: Chris Carson

Date: 09:57:24 02/07/03

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On February 07, 2003 at 12:28:12, Mogens Larsen wrote:

>On February 07, 2003 at 12:04:34, Uri Blass wrote:
>
>>If it is possible for 2700 GM's(lower rated than kasparov) only to get the same
>>result then it supports the theory that DJ is a super-GM.
>
>Obviously.
>
>>If you think about 2500-2600 players then one that can get 50% is not enough
>>to say that DJ is not a super GM and you need to see if all can get average of
>>50% in order to say that Junior is somewhere between strong IM and Decent GM.
>
>There's no reason to state the obvious. I assume that if one or two are capable,
>then a significant subset is capable as well. The exact percentage is unclear
>and rather difficult to establish. This is what makes it an opinion as opposed
>to indisputable fact. If you have a different opinion, then fine, but please
>refrain from stating chicken logic. Thanks in advance.
>
>Regards,
>Mogens

Lower rated players (2497 to 2698) loose against slower hw and older versions,
the prog/comps have 25 wins, 30 draws, 10 loses.  Hardware was 266 Mhz to 4x500
Mhz.  The programs were Chess Tiger, Fritz, Junior, Rebel and Hiarcs.  The
results improve (higher percentage wins) in favor of the prog/comps as the human
ratings drop.  I have the data.  It is public knowledge.

Only GM's rated 2700 to 2840+ have drawn matches against the prog/comps on hw
faster than 2Ghz.

I see support for the Super GM (2700+) case, I do not see any data/results for
the below 2700 case that you state.  This is a broad range of players and a
large spread of ratings.  Lots of games, some tournament and some matches.

Best regards,
Chris Carson



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