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Subject: Re: Ed's Programmer Stuff

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 03:39:30 02/08/03

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On February 08, 2003 at 06:15:58, Dave Gomboc wrote:

>On February 07, 2003 at 13:01:51, Uri Blass wrote:
>
>>On February 07, 2003 at 12:36:48, Matthew Hull wrote:
>>
>>>On February 07, 2003 at 12:08:58, Tony Werten wrote:
>>>
>>>>On February 07, 2003 at 11:25:20, Uri Blass wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On February 07, 2003 at 11:05:25, Tony Werten wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On February 07, 2003 at 08:34:51, Ed Schröder wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On February 07, 2003 at 07:12:01, Tony Werten wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>On February 07, 2003 at 04:35:30, Dave Gomboc wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>There hasn't been much change to it lately.  I hope Ed is merely temporarily
>>>>>>>>>distracted by GK vs DJ and will be continuing his excellent work after the match
>>>>>>>>>has finished!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I'm afraid he's starting to realize what retirement exactly means :( Or his wife
>>>>>>>>does ;)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>he he...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Both of you are wrong. While documenting the program I got a few improvement
>>>>>>>ideas and from one thing came another.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I have some for you too (based on your pages) Where do I send them ? Or else
>>>>>>contact me by email and I'll reply it to you.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Tony
>>>>>
>>>>>You can post them here.
>>>>>
>>>>>I can also do it but
>>>>>I do not see a motivation to give ideas for free at this moment.
>>>>
>>>>I never mind giving away ideas if it helps someone who has a problem.
>>>>>
>>>>>What is your motivation?
>>>>>Do you want to help Ed because his ideas helped Xinix?
>>>>
>>>>Yes, I was already using the same idea he was using. His version was better.
>>>>Combined with my version is even more better.
>>>>
>>>>If I was helped with his idea, I should return the favour.
>>>
>>>
>>>Progress might be much faster if everyone followed your example.
>>>
>>>One wonders if we would not already have a 6-0 computer-Kasparov match result by
>>>now if everyone shared information instead of hoarding it.
>>>
>>>
>>>Matt
>>
>>I think that if you want everybody to share information there is a way to do it.
>>
>>If people know that they get money for their contribution to do a better chess
>>program they will share information.
>>
>>It is possible to invite all the programmers to give ideas
>>about improving chess programs when the people who give significant contribution
>>will get money for their contribution and the decision about people who gave
>>significant contribution can be done by the programmers.
>>
>>The only thing that is missing is a sponsor to give the money.
>>
>>Uri
>
>Uri, you always talk about money, money, money for this stuff.  There are enough
>chess engine authors who post here that if they co-developed a single engine
>instead of each working on their own, Kasparov would get blown out of the water
>by what they came up with.  It doesn't require money, it just requires
>cooperation.
>
>Dave

Yes but the point is that money is a good reason to convince more people to
cooperate.

Uri



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