Author: Rolf Tueschen
Date: 14:26:07 02/08/03
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On February 08, 2003 at 16:43:32, Uri Blass wrote:
>On February 08, 2003 at 15:57:23, Rolf Tueschen wrote:
>
>>On February 08, 2003 at 03:31:35, Uri Blass wrote:
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>>>On February 08, 2003 at 03:03:38, Kurt Utzinger wrote:
>>>
>>>>[Event "Man vs Machine"]
>>>>[Site "New York"]
>>>>[Date "2003.02.07"]
>>>>[Round "6"]
>>>>[White "Deep Junior"]
>>>>[Black "Kasparov, Gary"]
>>>>[Result "1/2-1/2"]
>>>>[ECO "B92"]
>>>>[PlyCount "55"]
>>>>
>>>>1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 a6 6. Be2 e5 7. Nb3 Be7 8. O-O
>>>>O-O 9. Kh1 {Deep Junior has avoided the sharpest line with 6.Bg5 (Utzinger,K)
>>>>Deep Junior hat die scharfen Varianten mit 6.Lg5 vermieden (Utzinger,K)} 9...
>>>>Bd7 {What a strange move? I see dark clouds coming over black's position
>>>>(Utzinger, K) Was fur ein aussergewohnlicher Zug in dieser bekannten Stellung
>>>>(Utzinger,K)} 10. Be3 {Not the best move in my opinion and if so, Kasparov has
>>>>succeeded in 'outbooking' Deep Junior (Utzinger,K) Nicht der beste Zug, so
>>>>dass sich das Eroeffnungsexperiment fur Kasparov gelohnt hat.} 10... Bc6 11.
>>>>Bf3 {It is somwhat astonishing how harmless Deep Junior plays the opening
>>>>(Utzinger,K) Es ist irgendwie erstaunlich, wie harmlos Deep Junior die
>>>>Eroffnung behandelt (Utzinger,K)} 11... Nbd7 12. a4 {Prevents b7-b5-b4. In
>>>>this way white is fighting for the square d5 (Utzinger,K) Verhindert b7-b5-b4.
>>>>Auf diese Weise kaempft Weiss um das Feld d5 (Utzinger,K)} 12... b6 {Kasparov d
>>>>oes obviously not like a4-a5. Otherwise 12...Nc5 would have been a good
>>>>alternative (Utzinger,K) Kasparov hat offenbar keine Lust, a4-a5 zuzulassen.
>>>>Ansonsten stand in 12...Sc5 eine gute Alternative zur Verfuegung (Utzinger,K)}
>>>>13. Qd3 Bb7 {A most appropriate move. If now 14.Nd5 so Nxd5 15.exd5 f5 with
>>>>attacking chances against white's kingside (Utzinger,K) Ein passender Zug.
>>>>Falls nun 14.Sd5 so Sxd5 15.exd5 f5 mit Angriffschancen gegen die weisse
>>>>Koenigsstellung (Utzinger,K)} 14. h3 {What the hell is this? (Utzinger,K) Fuer
>>>>was soll denn nun dies wieder gut sein? (Utzinger,K)} 14... Rc8 {A good waiting
>>>>move bringing the rook to an optimal place, but 14...Nc5 was another option
>>>>(Utzinger,K) Ein guter Abwartezug, der den Turm auf ein starkes Feld stellt,
>>>>aber 14...Sc5 war eine beachtliche Alternative (Utzinger,K)} 15. Rad1 {
>>>>And now 15...Nc5 16.Nxc5 dxc5 17.Qxd8 Rfxd8 and soon drawn? It's however not
>>>>so easy because of 17.Nd5 instead of the exchange of queens (Utzinger,K) Und
>>>>nun 15...Sc5 16.Sxc5 dxc5 17.Dxd8 Tfxd8 und bald Remis? Es ist jedoch nicht so
>>>>einfach, denn Weiss kann 17.Sd5 statt den Damentausch wahlen (Utzinger,K)}
>>>>15... h6 {There is a big difference between white's useless h2-h3 and black's
>>>>h7-h6. The latter move prevents Bg5 thus doing a good job to keep the
>>>>important square d5 under control (Utzinger, K) Zwischen h2-h3 und h7-h6 gibt
>>>>es einen grossen Unterschied. Der weisse Zug war sinnlos, der schwarze
>>>>verhindert Lg5 im Kampf um das Feld d5 (Utzinger,K)} 16. Rfe1 {We have a typica
>>>>l positon here where computer programs are unable to play according to a given
>>>>plan (Utzinger,K) Wir haben hier eine typische Stellung, wo Computer unfaehig
>>>>sind, einen Plan zu formulieren (Utzinger,K)} 16... Qc7 {Avoids the exchange
>>>>of some pieces after 16...Nc5 and shows that Kasparov is more interested in an
>>>>unbalanced game (Utzinger,K) Vermeidet einigen Figurentausch nach 16...Sc5 und
>>>>impliziert, dass Kasparov einem dynamischen Kampf nicht abgeneigt ist
>>>>(Utzinger,K)} 17. g3 {This was more logical one move before with the rook
>>>>still standing on f1 and the aim Lf3-g2, followed by f2-f4 at the right moment
>>>>(Utzinger,K) Das waere einen Zug frueher - mit Turm auf f1 - logischer gewesen.
>>>>Die Idee muesste Lf3-g2, gefolgt von f2-f4 zur rechten Zeit sein (Utzinger,K)}
>>>>17... Rfd8 18. Kh2 Re8 {Both players seem to follow a doing nothing strategy
>>>>(Utzinger,K) Beide Spieler scheinen eine 'Tu nichst Strategie' zu verfolgen
>>>>(Utzinger,K)} 19. Re2 Qc4 20. Qxc4 Rxc4 21. Nd2 Rc7 {The exchange of queens
>>>>has lead to a slight advantage for black (Utzinger,K) Der Damentausch hat zu
>>>>leichtem schwarzem Vorteil gefuehrt (Utzinger,K)} 22. Bg2 Rec8 23. Nb3 Rxc3 {
>>>>A nice but typical sacrifice of the rook, black gets the centre pawn e4 and
>>>>obtains a strong position (Utzinger,K) Ein huebsches abertypischesQualitaetsop
>>>>fer. Schwarz erobert noch den weissen Zentrumsbauer e4 und steht dann sehr gut
>>>>(Utzinger,K)} 24. bxc3 Bxe4 25. Bc1 Bxg2 26. Kxg2 Rxc3 {And here Kasparov
>>>>offered a draw, that's a surprise but even more surprising is that the Junior
>>>>team declinded the offer (Utzinger,K)
>>>
>>>
>>>I do not see it as a surprise.
>>>
>>>Kasparov knows more about chess than the programmers so it is logical to suspect
>>>that if kasparov offers a draw you should not agree to a draw.
>>
>>Could you control your phrase here another time? To me it makes no sense.
>>If K knew more then they should agree because they have no knowledge!
>>
>>Rolf Tueschen
>
>No
>
>The point is that if kasparov thinks that a draw is good for him then it is not
>good for Junior.
>
>Another possibility is that kasparov understand that it is a draw but in that
>case if the programmers do not understand they should play in order to learn
>why this is a fault
That could be interesting IF Kasparov wouldn't become angry.
1) they should believe him
2) he won't claim a draw if he's in a worse position - this isn't human chess
with such tricks please note that
3) since it was objectively a little bit better position for K they would have
been stupid if they had played on
4) Still I see something strange: if DJ saw something for him why then the
operators should draw???
Rolf Tueschen
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>Uri
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>>>Uri
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