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Subject: Re: Don't allow draws unless it's forced

Author: Andrew Williams

Date: 17:01:28 02/08/03

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On February 08, 2003 at 15:44:44, Frank Phillips wrote:

>On February 08, 2003 at 09:54:15, Andrew Williams wrote:
>
>>On February 08, 2003 at 06:14:10, Uri Blass wrote:
>>
>>>On February 08, 2003 at 05:09:43, Andrew Williams wrote:
>>>
>>>>On February 07, 2003 at 22:17:56, John Wentworth2 wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Seems like a good way to have more interesting matches would be to not allow
>>>>>draws unless it is by repetition or not enough material to mate.
>>>>
>>>>The thing is, humans get tired and computers don't. So if you want a big match
>>>>agaisnt a big name, you can't do this.
>>>>
>>>>Andrew
>>>
>>>Nonsense.
>>>
>>>If there is enough time between the games humans do not get tired.
>>>I also think that the time between games in kasparov-Junior was enough time.
>>>
>>>My opinion is that every player should be allowed to offer a draw but the
>>>opponent should get the draw offer only if a team of good chess players agree
>>>that it is a draw.
>>>
>>>In other cases the opponent should not get the draw offer and the game should
>>>continue.
>>>
>>>Uri
>>
>>
>>What *you* think about whether a person can recover "enough" between games
>>doesn't count for anything, because nobody would pay you a million dollars to
>>play chess, and even if they did, nobody would be interested in the outcome.
>>
>>The  question is, "how do you persuade world class players to play chess against
>>computers?". At the moment, you have to offer them a lot of money, and agree to
>>various (sometimes strange) conditions. As soon as you start saying, "the game
>>can't be drawn until somebody else agrees" or "you don't get any money for
>>draws", you will either lose the opportunity to play against the very best
>>players, or increase the price to the extent that no-one would pay it.
>>
>>You need to take into account:
>>
>>* The calibre of player you want to play against
>>* The extent to which you are doing them a favour (free money)
>>* The extent to which they are doing you a favour (good publicity)
>>
>>Andrew
>
>Andrew
>
>I agree that there is a 'reality' to be addressed (so that the strong human will
>turn up to play), but something needs to be changed.  Almost $1M, the positions
>got unbalanced and interesting, the guy got scared and the games ended - well
>more like aborted.
>
>According to reports, there was booing at the auditorium after the last game.
>Rightly so in my opinion.  Big build up: big let down.
>
>(Congratulation to Junior BTW).
>
>Frank

I agree. The Junior team deserve congratulations for their program and for the
way they conducted themselves during the match.

Andrew




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