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Subject: Re: The Rules are clear ...adenum (Objection)

Author: Rolf Tueschen

Date: 02:53:34 02/10/03

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On February 10, 2003 at 05:34:48, Joachim Rang wrote:

>On February 09, 2003 at 21:06:58, mike schoonover wrote:
>
>>are you saying that the whole team plus an additional computer are allowed
>>to confir jointly in making a decision?
>>regards
>>mike
>
>yes the rules are clear. It is obvious, that the operator alone has not enough
>knowledge, to decide whether to agree or not to a draw offer. Therefore it is
>only fair, that he might consult _predesigned_ members of the computer team and
>of course the DeepJunior engine.
>
>Note: Under no circumstances he might be able to influence the moves played by
>the computer during the games. The use of another machine and additional advices
>from GM's is only to decide whether to accept or to deny a draw offer.
>
>No conspiracy - no need to change any rules.


Now I show you how such a setting COULD lead to possible cheating.

I have a second comp and a good GM. Then GM says "hey guys, I know for sure that
in this position such and such could be played and then we have somewhat of the
following position; now give it into the machine, I want to see what Junior will
do in that position". Well, that being done and suddenly all can see that this
is leading into hell. So - if that existed at all what I don't know - if I had a
possibility to interfere JUST via the time mode [I remember a story from London
where that happened in a game between Rebel and Shredder] so that I could
influence Junior to play such and such. Of course I can only give the rough
design of such a doing but perhaps the experts could comment with details. I
think atleast I found a possibility where a second machine and its answers "from
the future" so to speak, I repeat, where a second machine could tell how the
playing machine would decide later on, then that is a possibility in combination
with a GM to change the direction of play - if there is the tiniest possibility
to influence e.g. the "clock". The details of that plot surely must be prepared
in advance. Question is if there is such a slight possibility to change into a
different time mode.

Rolf Tueschen



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