Author: Rolf Tueschen
Date: 05:43:32 02/10/03
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On February 10, 2003 at 07:41:35, Peter Fendrich wrote: >On February 10, 2003 at 05:53:34, Rolf Tueschen wrote: > >>On February 10, 2003 at 05:34:48, Joachim Rang wrote: >> >>>On February 09, 2003 at 21:06:58, mike schoonover wrote: >>> >>>>are you saying that the whole team plus an additional computer are allowed >>>>to confir jointly in making a decision? >>>>regards >>>>mike >>> >>>yes the rules are clear. It is obvious, that the operator alone has not enough >>>knowledge, to decide whether to agree or not to a draw offer. Therefore it is >>>only fair, that he might consult _predesigned_ members of the computer team and >>>of course the DeepJunior engine. >>> >>>Note: Under no circumstances he might be able to influence the moves played by >>>the computer during the games. The use of another machine and additional advices >>>from GM's is only to decide whether to accept or to deny a draw offer. >>> >>>No conspiracy - no need to change any rules. >> >> >>Now I show you how such a setting COULD lead to possible cheating. >> >>I have a second comp and a good GM. Then GM says "hey guys, I know for sure that >>in this position such and such could be played and then we have somewhat of the >>following position; now give it into the machine, I want to see what Junior will >>do in that position". Well, that being done and suddenly all can see that this >>is leading into hell. So - if that existed at all what I don't know - if I had a >>possibility to interfere JUST via the time mode [I remember a story from London >>where that happened in a game between Rebel and Shredder] so that I could >>influence Junior to play such and such. Of course I can only give the rough >>design of such a doing but perhaps the experts could comment with details. I >>think atleast I found a possibility where a second machine and its answers "from >>the future" so to speak, I repeat, where a second machine could tell how the >>playing machine would decide later on, then that is a possibility in combination >>with a GM to change the direction of play - if there is the tiniest possibility >>to influence e.g. the "clock". The details of that plot surely must be prepared >>in advance. Question is if there is such a slight possibility to change into a >>different time mode. >> >>Rolf Tueschen > >Rolf, with your creativity regarding cheating medthods, I would never set up >this kind of match against you if you were in the programmers team! >/Peter I know, Peter. Rolf Tueschen
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