Author: James T. Walker
Date: 17:14:06 02/10/03
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On February 10, 2003 at 09:50:23, Graham Laight wrote: >On February 10, 2003 at 09:37:44, Terry McCracken wrote: > >>Yes it was made by Amir, Shay and Boris at that point, the reason, DJ was going >>to lose! I'm sorry you think re-reading the post was a waste of time. >> >>Kasparov was turned down with his offer, and no one questioned Kramnik when he >>offered draws in the last two games! So calling Kasparov a coward is little bit > >I agree - we should have lambasted Fritz and Kramnik more at the time. They are >just as bad as Kasparov and Junior. > >But I do feel that the time has come to make a stand. Computer v human is a >different scenario from human v human. At the present time, a computer, unless >it is clearly losing, cannot really play for a draw deliberately. Therefore, >these games should mostly be good fights. > >>much IMO. The game would have lasted for hours if DJ played correctly. How could >>Kasparov know DJ was going to play a5?? and blow it? >> >>So the DJ Team played it smart, and turned around and offered the draw! > >That's right. But they shouldn't be allowed to. Once the game has started, all >decisions should be made by the computer - and the computer alone. > >>In a sense Kasparov and the DJ Team both win! But really if anyone must be >>disappointed it must be Kasparov himself! Now knowing it wouldn't have been >>too hard to win the match. > >If the rules had been more sensible, we'd be discussing this as FACT now, not >speculation. > >>So I do agree that it was a shame Kasparov didn't try for at least 10 more >>moves, but he already made the first draw offer after Rxc3!:( >> >>Apparently, Kasparov offered the draw the first time, as he overlooked Bc1 to a3 >>maneuver, and also he said he was being distracted by the operator for leaving >>the table frequently. > >I am AMAZED that this was allowed. It most certainly should not have been. In >the great matches (Kasparov v Deep Blue), Kasparov had insisted that there be an >operator PERMANENTLY sat opposite him. When he offered a draw, the DB operator >would have to make a telephone call to see if it would be accepted. > >I'm with Garry on this one! I hope he gets his way on THAT rule next time. > >-g > >>Sigh... >> >>Terry Geeeez. I really have to disagree here. Why should the operator be glued to his chair while Kasparov roams all over the place? He could not require that of any human opponent. Gary got up almost every time he made a move. It's not fair to make the operator stay put. (Especially if he has to go to the toilet). Jim
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