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Subject: Re: ICGA 11th World Computer Chess Championship

Author: Tony Werten

Date: 02:57:27 02/11/03

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On February 10, 2003 at 14:50:21, John Merlino wrote:

>On February 10, 2003 at 14:38:14, Russell Reagan wrote:
>
>>On February 10, 2003 at 14:05:44, John Merlino wrote:
>>
>>>Yep, pretty annoying. Another hobby of mine (being an all-around nerd) is Drum
>>>and Bugle Corps. The Championships are held every year in mid August. There have
>>>been 30 of these now, and none of them have been West of Dallas, although over
>>>1/2 of the Championships have been won by Corps from California.
>>>
>>>The point is that, literally, 90% of the Corps are based in the Eastern half of
>>>the US, and these organizations are non-profit. Many of them, even the best
>>>ones, are just able to survive through a competition season which lasts less
>>>than two months, because trekking about 150-175 people cross-country for that
>>>period of time does cost quite a bit of money.
>>>
>>>I guess the ICGA decision-makers are using the same (not entirely flawed)
>>>reasoning as the DCI folks....
>>
>>This makes good sense, but it is kind of a catch-22 (I think that's the right
>>phrase). Perhaps the ICGA looks at the situation and says, "90% of the
>>participants are from Europe, so we will not make the majority travel to North
>>America." But, if they held the competition in North America, they might well be
>>saying, "90% of the participants are from North America, so we will not make the
>>majority travel to Europe."
>>
>>I don't think they'll ever know until they give it a chance.
>
>I don't think they're saying "90% of the PARTICIPANTS are from Europe", I think
>they're saying "90% of the ENGINES are from Europe", or some such equivalent.
>
>Unfortunately, the whole (totally valid) argument is that the ICGA charter
>explicitly says that the competition will alternate between Europe and North
>America (or is it Europe and "not Europe"?). This is the reason for the
>friction....

That problem has been solved. It has been taken out of the charter last august.

Tony

>
>jm



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