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Subject: Re: IA-64 vs OOOE (attn Taylor, Hyatt)

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 18:07:57 02/12/03

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On February 12, 2003 at 16:13:29, Tom Kerrigan wrote:

>On February 12, 2003 at 11:47:21, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>But I don't
>>think OOOE is _nearly_ as important for decent architectures as it is for
>>architectures
>>that have significant design problems like X86.
>
>Fine, it's a 30% benefit to Alpha and MIPS, maybe it's 40% for x86...
>
>>>>The Cray T932 was the last 64 bit machine they built that I used.  And it
>>>How many NPS does Crafty get on it?
>>about 7M.
>>And that was Cray Blitz, not Crafty.  I have not tried to run Crafty on a Cray,
>
>7M per processor? How many processors did those Crays come with? 32? So Crazy
>Blitz was searching 224M NPS? I stand corrected, the T932 is several times
>faster than any other processor ever made.

No.  7M total as I said, spread over 32 processors (actually we only used 31
on that machine so that one could be dedicated to handling interrupts and the
like to avoid unnecessary context switches).

>
>>>>I did a branchless FirstOne() in asm a few weeks back here, just to test.
>>>>It used a cmov, and it wasn't slower than the one with a branch.  If the
>>>On a Pentium III?
>>On a pentium IV.
>>Although I did test it on my PIII xeon box, so I guess the answer is "yes" to
>>the III as
>>well...
>
>You "guess"? I never said anything about cmovs being bad for the P4, so why do
>you keep talking about the P4?
>
>-Tom

I ran it on both, as I said.  I simply almost forgot that my 700's were PIII's
while my dual 2.8 is PIV's.  I did the testing on both since I use both to
play chess and fiddle with assembly.

Restated:  I ran the branchless stuff on a PIII/700 xeon, and a PIV/2800 xeon.
It worked well on both.  I "guess" it therefore works well on all PIII/PIV
processors, even though I only have xeons to test.




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